Dude, I forgot about New Ways To Die. That was a fun story! Generally when I think about Venom, I think about the Remender series (starring Flash Thompson as Venom!), but Cates and Stegman are really working magic on the current run.
I keep reading "writing" criticisms. On films like this, the script is a living and breathing thing. It's fluid and ever-changing. Hardy came up with many moments and sequences on the fly, including the lobster scene. My point is: unless you've read the script, I wouldn't immediately point the finger at the screenwriter. If this was television, then it'd be a different story.
I used to consider the Remender Venom series his best (in spite of also defending Eddie Brock, who doesn't get enough credit as a character), but I'm already ready to rank the Cates run highest. Love it.
Monstress is one of my favorite series of all time. It combines folklore and fantasy and makes an epic the size of LOTR. Beautifully written.
Like, from a filmmaking standpoint, it was a goddamn nightmare. Every line outside of Eddie and Venom's rapport was a hoary cliche or badly delivered exposition (or both). Characters spent a lot of time reiterating things that just happened. So many continuity errors and obvious reshoot scenes. Cheap-looking. There was an absolute lack of tension or drama. Unearned emotional stakes. Everyone but Tom Hardy was phoning it in. Mostly crappy action. Bad editing with no accounting for spatial awareness. So many shots were off-center in a way that annoyed the hell out of me. The godawful Eminem theme song. Just an overwhelming amount of ineptitude for a big studio film. But I had so much fun. I hope that Venom becomes the Fast & Furious of superhero franchises.
When “Venom” said “I was a loser too.” I really wanted some space flashbacks of other aliens pushing him down or giving him atomic wedgies.
Completely agree with all this and Woody Harrelson is the man to take it to the next ridiculous height
This will be a great movie to sit down with my friends and get wasted while watching. It's probably the best so bad it's good superhero movie
Now I can say without spoilers: There's a scene in here where a cop looks like he's about to be eaten whole by Venom says, "No! You don't eat policemen!" with complete sincerity. I think that underscores the level this movie was operating on
Not a flop. It wasn't quite as close as we thought it might be at the top of the box office, but last weekend's top two films definitely didn't disappoint. Sony's Venom held on even better than expected, delivering a second weekend at #1 while Warner Bros.'s A Star is Born continued to shine. As for the weekend's three new wide releases, Universal's First Man led the way, narrowly edging out Sony's Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween for third place on the weekend chart while Fox's Bad Times at the El Royale fell outside the top five. With an estimated $35.7 million, Sony's Venom dropped just 55% in its second weekend as the film's domestic cume now totals $143 million after just ten days in release. Heading into the weekend a drop of 60%+ seemed most likely considering historical precedence, but the film continues to outperform expectations, holding on similarly to Logan, which dipped just 56.9% in its second weekend.
So is this movie kind of like Suicide Squad, critics hate it but the audience say its fun but terrible and it makes a ton of money?
SS ended up making almost 750m worldwide and about 325m domestically. I don't think Venom's legs are that strong, but it does seem like a similar situation. Critics have been more forgiving to Venom, though.
Hmmm, I could have sworn in the thread a lot of people liked it, but that's years old by now. I remember enjoying it when I walked out but when I watched it again at home with my wife, all the flaws stuck out terribly and I didn't really enjoy it at all.