Yeah, I feel kinda weird about those two songs for that reason. I don't know the reason why Colin has only seemed to have written two Circa songs in almost their entirety (his demos are so close to the actual songs), both on BSN. As far as I know, he's never done it since? Like, of course it makes sense in that it was a major label debut, and they needed catchy songs, but its weird that their two biggest singles weren't written by Anthony (either in lyrics or initial song idea too). Did he just go to the band one day and say "lads, Anthony can't write a catchy song, so I'm gonna do it". Given how popular the songs were and are still in their sets, would've thought we'd hear more via him.
Always weird to see people think the catchy, radio-friendly stuff on BSN is all because of Colin as if Anthony didn’t write massive hooks and catchy melodies on Juturna and OLG Also, I Felt Free and Imaginary Enemy have been pretty absent from their sets since the Violent Waves album cycle. They haven’t played Imaginary Enemy since 2012/2013 and they played I Felt Free on their spring 2018 tour for the first time since 2013. Those two songs may have been singles, but Get Out, Glass Arrows, and TTDA have been mainstays in their setlists since the BSN album cylce. Strange Terrain and Frozen Creek have gotten a lot of play since 2014 as well.
i mean there’s Juturna/OLG catchy, which is melodic, and then there’s BSN which is straight up top 40 hook shit
Maybe it’s not a case of “they needed catchy songs for their major label debut” and maybe they just liked those songs enough to put them on the record
Get Out was the first single and I always thought actually got more mainstream(ish) attention than anything else on BSN, even the Colin songs
Get out should have been HUGE. I've shown it to so many people, who aren't a fan of the scene, and they all love it. Honestly, it should have been everywhere.
To my recollection, all of them were pretty quickly on and off the radio. I’m not even sure I ever heard I Felt Free on mainstream alternative radio aside from it playing in the background of a promotional bump for their tour with Anberlin in early 2011.
TTDA is easily my favorite on BSN. Anyway. OLG > Amulet > BSN > Descensus> Juturna > VW Y'all probably gonna hate on me for where Juturna is, I just don't really ever have a desire to listen to it like the others.
I always thought Imaginary Enemy was the lead single for that one. That's the one they played on late night anyway. Maybe Get Out was just released first, didn't realize it was a single. But I guess when you're on a major any time a new song comes out it's a single. Either way I'm enjoying this discussion and find myself agreeing with a lot of people. Whoever said that album falls off until the closer is correct IMHO. But I think Dyed in the Wool is my favorite song on that album anyway.
Okay, the Safe Camp Sessions versions of Lustration and Stop the Fucking Car are great. That's all. Thank you for listening to my TedTalk.
i know it's a cop out but compendium into dyed in the wool is the best part of BSN. ST->GO->GA stretch also fucking slaps even though none of those songs individually rank very highly for me overall. Get Out is a tremendous song, but it's a tremendous STUDIO song. It has never hit live for me. I hate when they close with it, very anti-climactic. I think Get Out served BSN very well and without it that album would be worthless. It's the lynchpin. circa has been my favorite band for just so long that honestly BSN is fine. It doesn't do any violence to their overall aesthetic and it has some great songs that were put in the studio blender of death, but it baffles me when people use it as the representative template for the band. It's absolutely the black sheep outlier of their sound.
also yeah every thing coming out of the patreon is solid gold. highly highly recommend at least second tier. it's like christmas in july.
agree the Patreon absolutely fucks. Love the alternate song versions and the covers. podcast has been just alright. Feel like I’d like a little more conversation around albums / songs. Maybe with producers like the Underoath twitch vids.
If anyone here is interested I'm starting a Circa Survive bracket on Monday here: Your Brackets Are Gone (Circa Survive Bracket) • forum.chorus.fm
What kind of songs they premiere over there? Just some b-sides? I only remember they advertised with a song called Metanoia, I think, which I actually haven't heard yet, not having too much money to join too many patreon deals etc., but let me know if it included some more tunes.