Accountability in Music [ARCHIVED] • Page 1022

For what it's worth, most venues/promoters do consider a show "sold out" if all that's available is platinum and resale.

I mean, haha at them regardless, of course, but that's a pretty standard thing.

Also, tons of tickets got opened up for the Worcester date (it previously looked sold out), and the prices are hilarious. $330 for pit. Fuck all the way off with that. Seems like that's probably going to be one of the most successful dates on the tour, unfortunately. Resale prices are still pretty high.

 

The whole "AI is just a new tool like photoshop or digital art" argument is so goddamn stupid lol

 

The Charlotte show looks about the same as when I checked like a month ago. Not sure how you could spin this into any kind of success. If they played GA venues it would’ve been easier to hide how many tickets are still available.

I really wonder what was the strategy behind this whole rollout. (I mean, aside from to make as much money as possible.) The whole “mysterious” thing may work for diehard fans, but you’re not gaining any new ones by being purposefully evasive. I guess you can’t only rely on a few emails, “word of mouth” and social ads to move tickets.

 

I just checked the BN Cleveland date out of curiosity. 5K venue. GA bleachers is all sold out (not even resale available), the main bleachers, look mainly sold out with the exception of maybe a combined 100 regular and resale tickets left and then GA Floor is still available - but no clue how many.

My guess is this is one of the few shows that is selling well for them, considering it's in a WAY smaller venue than many of the other shows on tour.

I looked at a few other dates, and there's no way they can continue on at those venues (Charlotte for sure)

 

People know it’s an unethical and lazy shortcut that produces initially novel visuals but with an ultimately hollow aesthetic that rapidly loses any value it has each time someone else does the exact same easy/lazy thing. They just don’t want to confront that reality of AI art and want to avoid accepting it.

When it’s framed as an inevitable and bold artistic breakthrough like the camera, printing press, computers, etc, and framed as pioneers vs. luddites, that’s just the person going hard to drown out their own cognitive dissonance. As I mentioned, the more AI art that gets made, the less novel it becomes and the more the aesthetic reads as easy, lazy, inhuman, and boring to people. Revisit these AI music videos in 6 months. It’s a race to the bottom when it’s used lazily or leaned on to generate 90% of the piece/work.

 

Yeah, 5k seems like a better fit than some of the other venues. The Charlotte one is nearly 20k if you include the lawn (which is closed). And I think the rest of the venue is about half that size.

 

do we need to discuss appropriate venue size for brand new here

 

Yea I'll tell you the appropriate venue size for them

Zero!

 

The only appropriate venue Jesse Lacey deserves to be in is a fucking jail cell

 

Wait what

 

wait, how did i not hear about this. i recall thinking how i hadn't seen him in any of the band's social posts anymore but i don't remember seeing TDS post about him being removed

 

I don’t think it ever made it outside of this site. He posted about it in one of the Dangerous Summer threads.

 

No, of course not. I guess the vibe here is much different than other online spaces I use. I never know when to respond to something or when to just like a comment and move on. (Maybe I shouldn’t even respond to you about this.) I thought I was just being polite, but I see how it would come across as unnecessary to the discussion.

 

Yeah this was in the Fall of 2022 I think. They were doing a headlining tour for Coming Home and then they randomly dropped off the tour with no explanation. Their drummer then made a public statement that he wants nothing to do with the band anymore. Then shortly after the band announced that Matt was amicably splitting from the band and then their drummer returned. It was a head scratcher to everyone until Sam came on here and was posting that basically Matt got caught slipping pills into a couple of women's drinks at one of the show's after parties. Not sure if he was arrested or not.

I think I remembered all those details correctly. The crazy thing is TDS had (and still do) this VIP package for all their shows called the Drinkers Club where fans can drink and party with the band after the show......now knowing that their former member was a creep that really isnt a good look. Can't believe they still do it.

 

He's still playing guitar for the dude from American Pie, so he still has the same access

 

I found the post where SA is mentioned but of course he still loves him.

The Dangerous Summer - Coming Home (2022) • Page 30 • forum.chorus.fm

Seems it was a Reddit thread where people were talking about the specifics (drugging women).

 

I don’t think the band ever commented on it. Sam said Matt was drugging women and was found out. Initially the band was just going to send Matt home and continue the tour, but the other bands said “fuck that” and that’s how TDS got kicked off their own headline tour. Allegedly.

 

This is not meant to be a humblebrag in any way because I know they have some records that mean a lot to some folks, but I'm kind of glad I was late to that train because it seemed like it was never not something with those guys and it was enough to turn me off from the get-go.

 

Yeah too late for that..

 

“done with antisemitism” is a strange thing to say 7 days after you released a song and music video for a song titled “Heil Hitler.” Which I highly doubt he’s taken down from his socials.

 

it’s who he was at the time. You are going to judge someone for an action they took A WEEK AGO?

(I hate to say this to ruin the joke but this is a joke, please in no way think I’m standing up for Kanye west in any capacity omg)

 

There are so many things wrong with this BN tour and this is the least of them, but wouldn’t you want to go kinda conservative with the booking? Like test the waters a little more before going full on? Just seems so insane how much of a shit show that tour is

 

Kinda reads as being insulated and surrounded by yes ppl. Makes sense that if you’re in the situation they’ve chosen to be in, you’ve probably already gotten rid of the folks who are going to challenge and be real with you.