Look, I’m not disagreeing with you guys that this guy is an asshole. But at the end of the day, he didn’t do anything illegal. You guys want perfection, and it doesn’t exist. But by all mean, go out there and save the world!
That was me and I said what I said: if this person's chronic cheating gave their partner STIs, that means they were having unprotected sex elsewhere and not disclosing. That invalidates consent. That is assault. Thanks for playing. Don't you have someplace else you could be spreading the groundbreaking gospel of apathy? Oh, and legality=/=morality.
Lorde help us all if the only options are "perfection" and "treating other humans like dirt". Y'all can live how you want, but I honestly don't see what you get out of shitting on others for wanting better. Unfollowing this thread now.
"Not doing anything illegal" isn't the bar (for most non sociopaths) where I think someone has done something morally, or ethically, wrong. Also, you're not actually correct here. Some states do require you to tell someone if you have an STD, including New York and California (and the charges range from felony to misdemeanor), and virtually every state would (and has) allowed civil penalties for those that don't. Transmitting an STD: Criminal Laws & Penalties Criminal transmission of an STD crimes commonly encompass different types of diseases. Though state laws differ, they typically include both HIV as well as other communicable or contagious sexually transmitted diseases. Some state laws list the individual diseases covered by name, while others use more general language that includes any type of communicable or sexually transmitted disease. Also, some states limit these crimes to the transmission of HIV, while others include HIV as one of the diseases covered by the law; yet others provide for additional penalties if the transmitted disease is HIV. And, lastly, I've never once called for perfection from anyone. Never thought it, never written it, never said it.
This is such an awful way to look at situations like this. Just because people experience shitty relationships means they have to just shut up and deal with it because “that’s life”? They can’t speak out about it to show others that hey, this person is abusive and should not be trusted/be around other women? I can’t believe this is the argument you are presenting. It’s really disheartening to see situations of abuse discredited as just part or life.
Is your thing to just change the goal posts another ten yards with every post you make? You've gone from "he did nothing wrong" to "he did nothing illegal" to "was it HIV!??!" -- seriously, are you an actual sociopath or do you just play one online? This is deranged shit.
You’re one of those “I’ve been hurt so others deserve to be hurt too” kinds I imagine. Maybe try “I’ve been hurt, I don’t want others to feel what I’ve felt”.
I just play one to get a rise out of people like you. See how easy it is? I just like playing devils advocate sometimes.
"I just pretend to be a sociopath online to get a rise out of people, look at me triggering all the people that don't like deranged sociopaths!" Seek out some therapy. It'll be good for you.
This thread makes me incredibly sad. Primarily the actions taken by this band member and secondarily, the responses by a particular member of this forum. Bad people really suck.
I realize the boring little king of their boring little hill is gone, but it bears saying again: As @Drew Beringer said, the devil doesn't need an advocate. But. If you play devil's advocate or do the devil's work, you cannot possibly expect anyone to be able to tell the difference. Edgelords, man. I just hope that person is kinder in their day to day life.
Jason, thanks for posting and sharing these. These stories have been crazy, and speaking with a few of the victims and some others, it seems like there's a lot that has yet to come to light. Going to keep reporting on this until something changes.