The last big new information revealed on a final episode of a season is usually an indicator of something big or important. You're supposed to leave this season being "woah i had no idea the queen was Natalie". Which, they're right, that is a surprise.
Not sure I understand how present Natalie’s death renders wilderness Natalie “pointless” or whatever. Her actions as leader are clearly going to have a major effect on everyone else in the wilderness. So even if you think it’s pointless, it’s still going to have plenty influence on everyone else. I will say adult Natalie’s arc this season is particularly disappointing and bland to me regardless of how it ends. Lottie going through the motions of legitimately kidnapping her and convincing her she was in some sort of danger seems like a flaccid choice given what we know the show is willing to do. I’m also confused why we saw young post-wilderness Lottie comforting another patient when she was institutionalized. Like Orla said, it could certainly come back to be relevant in season 3 but I thought we were going to spend some time in that timeline watching her also start a weird cult there. I guess it was to show she just genuinely wanted to help people? I dunno, kind of felt like wasted screen time to me Also I really don’t think it’s a stretch that a cop/detective did something stupid. That feels nitpicky to me
As far as I know the question of “who is the queen” is never mentioned in dialogue. The words “antler queen” aren’t even mentioned, that’s just something fans made up, so in my mind that entire concept is not even relevant.
The finale was alright in the same way that most of the season has been alright - the wilderness storyline is great, the present-day storyline feels in the way of that, and the needle drops are becoming increasingly grating.
It’s a certainly a stretch and it allowed them to wrap up a meaningless plot line. It doesn’t even matter if that character is a cop or not. Any character accepting a concocted drink from a stranger (in the kitchen of a known cult!) is absurd.
I think that was just speculation based on people noticing how much she seemed to be phoning it in in her performance and while doing promo for the show. I don't think its as unreasonable assumption to make though.
Hey you know me and how I've felt about her so makes sense to me It's a shame because I think this revelation that Nat was a leader or at the very minimum, a very complicit participator of the hunts, makes adult Nat more interesting. This whole time we saw her as the calming, sane voice who's ashamed to have been apart of it, but learning she played a much bigger role than we thought...way more interesting... and now we can't really play with that at all
The "she is the reason we made it out" line from season 1 is a lot more interesting now. I think everyone assumed she saved them by going out on her own or by going against the AQ.
Yeah I think that’s my biggest disappointment for Natalie. Juliette was very vocal in her disappointment over much of season one’s Natalie storyline revolving so heavily around Travis. Then season two she was stuck on Lottie’s compound all season. Now we finally know this truth about her from the past and the ways that could inform her performance in the present could have been really interesting going forward with a new storyline, but eh, them’s the breaks I suppose. I do really love this show, but I guess in the end here I feel slightly disappointed in season two as a whole. Lot of great moments throughout, but I do hope season three will feel a little more cohesive. I’m guessing the whole Adam Martin (and now Kevin and Natalie as well) thing will still continue on next season because of all the questions brought up in here. I mean wouldn’t even Kevin’s autopsy reveal that he was drugged at the time of his death, meaning he didn’t actually die via bullet wounds? I don’t know, but that case definitely isn’t closed like they think it is. Someone else is going to come along and start investigating again and I feel like this time they won’t be so lucky.
Wilderness storyline remains a fun watch, but man every cut back to present day is such a drag. Nothing makes any narrative sense. Big letdown from the first season for me but I’ll stick around to see where it goes
Doubtful an autopsy would be done on Kevyn. A medical examiner seeing someone dead with multiple bullet wounds probably isn’t going to wonder what killed him.
Feels like one look at the bullet wounds would tell a medical professional they were clearly made hours postmortem but idk. Like my eighth biggest annoyance in that timeline Doesn’t help that I’m watching every new episode of this show so close to episodes of the final seasons of two of the greatest shows of the last decade
I sincerely don't understand how anyone has faith that they are gonna be able to explain away a myriad of things in the present timeline next season. This show is beyond cooked.
LOST taught me there doesn’t need to be an answer to every question, and expecting one misses the point. Simply enjoying the ride has made viewing this season of Yellowjackets way more fun and rewarding than I would‘ve found it otherwise. Of course I’m interested in the mysteries, but solving all of them isn’t necessary for this show to be fulfilling.
I don’t think this show is beyond cooked but I did enjoy season 2 less than season 1 and didn’t love a lot of the decisions they made.
This is me but with Twin Peaks. Both of those shows I’ve seen being compared to this one. You’d think people would get the hint.
not to criticise this show on a forum where that's apparently frowned upon but there are absolutely valid criticisms to be made of a bunch of choices here that don't boil down to wanting answers to the mysteries. like no I don't need It explained right now or the eyeless dude resolved but any semblance of actual plotting or thought in the adult storyline would be great. I can't even keep track of anybody's motivations at this rate it's just characters doing stuff I guess in the abstract Nat's fate is sad but I found myself very unmoved by it. that character is maybe the clearest example of just how disconnected this show is getting because Sophie Thatcher's Nat is just constantly fantastic and a joy to watch and I had to grit my teeth through almost every Lewis scene this season, it's exhausting. what a potentially great character totally wasted by bad writing and Lewis clearly not wanting to be present at all the only way I can make myself enjoy the adult timeline at this point is fully treating it like a comedy, it's beyond ridiculous if you try taking it seriously at all. I propose we get one (1) Jeff Music scene every episode from now on and Misty and Walter just wipe out the rest of the supporting characters, just lean into it
Yeah I have said it a few times in here already but the two timelines definitely feel like two entirely different shows. Just completely tonally disconnected from eachother. It is like these characters survived the darkest, bleakest, horrifying experience to be in a kind of mid goofy dark crime comedy 25 years later.
I probably missed it but did we ever resolve the mystery of why Travis killed himself or like. I recall Natalie trying to figure some message from him or trying to uncover the secret meaning "Travis wouldn't have done this!" What was the conclusion of that? I'm not trying to be critical even, I don't remember
"Tell Nat she was right" was "tell Nat she was right about the Darkness following us back" kind of a let down tbh. They implied that either Lottie allowed him to die while having a vision or there was an accident while he was trying to get close to death to have a vision himself. They made it ambiguous if Lottie was the perpetrator or a bystander