A leak could be from a “random” source. Lots of bands have had tracks leak at strange times. Also, if it’s a leak, there is no suing anyone because there are no profits if the source is unknown.
I need Southern Air and L&S. I don’t really care to have OA, anything before it, or S/T. I do have Paper Walls, Lift a Sail, and WYTTSY. Would love a pressing of WYTTSY Acoustic on vinyl too.
I have the box set stretching from The Underdog EP-WYTTSY and averages for that on discogs are insane. I never liked the quality of the OA, L&S, and PW pressings though.
If you’re like me and are just looking for that hot goss, the part about former members (himself included) getting kicked out starts around 31:20 and goes for a little over 20 minutes
That was a good listen. Ben sounds like he's in a good place and on the grind. Crazy that the Takeover thing is still happening too. I hope Mike gets LP or Ryan...or both ....to come and talk about stuff that happened. Even outside of the band drama it would be cool to hear Ryan's perspective on the band's timeline.
He's not really saying a whole lot specifically, which I understand, but a lot of this seems confirm rumors I've heard over the years.
Basically he left after he recorded his parts in Lights and Sounds to go on Warped with Takover Records. When Warped came through Southern California, Ryan told Ben there was an emergency band meeting. At the meeting they told Ben he had to quit to focus on Takeover Records. He said “I’m not quitting my band” or something like that. They worked with their manager and gave Ben notice that he had to meet conditions to stay in the band including: 1. Learn all your parts 2. End Takeover Records 3. Go to therapy so “we know you’re not crazy” He was offended by that and said screw you guys.
Heh. Some revisionist history there as one of the people Ben called the moment that meeting ended. I was getting out of a college class and remember it pretty clearly.
more than any band besides maybe B**** N** (and prob not anymore, honestly..scared of what we'd find out) I want a tell all book or oral history or something about this band's drama.