This is an easy video to show they're not the same by programming them on a piano instead of using the actual songs. He even super imposes the melodies on top of each other at the end.
I would actually say that video shows how similar the two songs really are. When they're put into the same key, you can see that both songs use the same notes. Are both songs exact replicas of each other? Absolutely not. But there's no denying that they share similarities. Whether or not that is enough of a case for Yellowcard to win, who knows?
Yes, indeed....it seems these songs both use the notes "A," "B," "C#," "D," and "E..." pretty damning stuff
He was during the L&S era since he became full of himself which makes sense (to an extent) given the overnight success they had in the early 2000s. From what I heard, he came back down to earth after Paper Walls.
I'm sorry but I don't hear this at all. I would love for YC to be right since this rapper sucks and Lights and Sounds (my personal favorite YC album) is criminally underrated in my opinion but nope. I'm sure they will settle out of court for something wayyyyyyyyy lower.
Love the guys from Yellowcard, but this looks like grasping for cash off of what would likely be a settlement. I just don't hear it.
With this logic, every radio country song could sue each other for the same exact reasoning...riffs are shared, not on purpose...this melody could probably be found to match a hundred other songs, sounds like a lullaby origination to me. Beyond ridiculous.
Yeah, pretty much this. Obvious when you break it down to the simplest form it's easy to see how objectively similar the structure of this melody is. But like I said earlier in the thread, there's so much else going on and the melodies come across much differently in the context of each song. So much so that I probably never would have heard the similarities without them being pointed out even though I've heard the YC song a thousand times. But like others said, this is reminiscent of the Katy Perry case and that didn't go her way, so who knows.
Yeah they're VERY similar especially that bit just after the start but they're not identical. Like one descends at the start but the other ascends. I'm not sure how close things have to be to count as an infringement. Like if you go E D C# A B A but the other song goes E D C# A B B does it still count as a rip off? Haha.
I’d suggest you do some research before you make such a statement. Even just out of respect to the general topic. Here’s a link to LP’s bio on Wikipedia. He’s just left of centre in this photo. He’s listed in the lawsuit. Longineu W. Parsons III - Wikipedia Also, the argument about the age of the song is not relevant. Songs don’t evaporate the year after they are released. The argument is if a piece are was taken without permission.[/QUOTE]
Him not being around for the last two albums has no consequence here, as the song and lawsuit in question LP is attached to. Yet you referred to him as a white man. Also, telling someone to shut up even though you are wrong is not a quality of the kind of person I want to converse with. Have a nice day.
My bad, wasn’t meant that way. I was speaking more for myself. I listen to a whole lot of music, but I don’t know jack about how to compose it, notes, etc. Just a consumer. I’ve never played an instrument in my life, besides what they made us play in elementary school. I find how people are at complete odds on this lawsuit fascinating and am interested to hear what the courts decide.
I love yellowcard, but yep, I can barely hear it, they’re grasping at straws here, might as well do a reunion if strapped for cash
Over looked post in this thread. That lawyer is virtually the reason these cases go to court these days. He won the famous “Blurred Lines” case.
I actually worked with the attorneys on the other side of the Blurred Lines case, and I can confirm that ruling still chaps their asses. But yeah, Busch has his fingerprints all over modern music copyright law. His Bridgeport case in the Sixth Circuit scared everyone away from unlicensed sampling for years until the Ninth Circuit bucked it in the Vogue case. He’s also currently trying to get the Music Modernization Act declared (partially) unconstitutional. Not a man to be fucked with.
I assume it must be a case that yellowcard got him first, but wouldn’t Juice wrld have plenty more cash than the YC boys to be affording the top dog in music law
I hope this leads to all pop punk bands suing each other for stealing each other's song, would be fun to watch
I hope this leads to pop punk as a genre ceasing to exist bc everyone is suing each other and no one wants to get sued