Yellowcard Suing Juice WRLD • Page 3

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Melody Bot, Oct 22, 2019.

  1. Preserved Moose

    Gritty pre-Computer Days

    This is an easy video to show they're not the same by programming them on a piano instead of using the actual songs. He even super imposes the melodies on top of each other at the end.
     
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  2. bradsonemanband

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    I would actually say that video shows how similar the two songs really are. When they're put into the same key, you can see that both songs use the same notes. Are both songs exact replicas of each other? Absolutely not. But there's no denying that they share similarities. Whether or not that is enough of a case for Yellowcard to win, who knows?
     
  3. Wharf Rat

    I know a little something you won't ever know Prestigious

    Yes, indeed....it seems these songs both use the notes "A," "B," "C#," "D," and "E..." pretty damning stuff
     
  4. bradsonemanband

    Trusted Supporter

    Also, I think this is the first time I've actually heard both of these songs.
     
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  5. sawhney[rusted]2

    I'll write you into all of my songs Supporter

    Both of them transposed over each other sounds cool!
     
  6. mattylikesfilms

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    He was during the L&S era since he became full of himself which makes sense (to an extent) given the overnight success they had in the early 2000s. From what I heard, he came back down to earth after Paper Walls.
     
  7. mattylikesfilms

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    I'm sorry but I don't hear this at all. I would love for YC to be right since this rapper sucks and Lights and Sounds (my personal favorite YC album) is criminally underrated in my opinion but nope.

    I'm sure they will settle out of court for something wayyyyyyyyy lower.
     
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  8. Oscyy

    Pity the living

    Love the guys from Yellowcard, but this looks like grasping for cash off of what would likely be a settlement.

    I just don't hear it.
     
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  9. Zip It Chris

    That berg attacked us, war on the arctic! Supporter

    With this logic, every radio country song could sue each other for the same exact reasoning...riffs are shared, not on purpose...this melody could probably be found to match a hundred other songs, sounds like a lullaby origination to me. Beyond ridiculous.
     
  10. kelseyleigh

    Regular Supporter

    Was really not expecting to see this headline.
     
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  11. Mrk_Brdshw

    Dusted Groove

    Yeah, pretty much this. Obvious when you break it down to the simplest form it's easy to see how objectively similar the structure of this melody is. But like I said earlier in the thread, there's so much else going on and the melodies come across much differently in the context of each song. So much so that I probably never would have heard the similarities without them being pointed out even though I've heard the YC song a thousand times.

    But like others said, this is reminiscent of the Katy Perry case and that didn't go her way, so who knows.
     
  12. Preserved Moose

    Gritty pre-Computer Days

    Yeah they're VERY similar especially that bit just after the start but they're not identical. Like one descends at the start but the other ascends. I'm not sure how close things have to be to count as an infringement. Like if you go E D C# A B A but the other song goes E D C# A B B does it still count as a rip off? Haha.
     
  13. .K.

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    I’d suggest you do some research before you make such a statement. Even just out of respect to the general topic.

    Here’s a link to LP’s bio on Wikipedia. He’s just left of centre in this photo. He’s listed in the lawsuit.

    Longineu W. Parsons III - Wikipedia


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    Also, the argument about the age of the song is not relevant. Songs don’t evaporate the year after they are released.

    The argument is if a piece are was taken without permission.[/QUOTE]
     
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  14. atlas

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    lol
     
  15. sophos34

    Prestigious Prestigious

    he left the band before they broke up. also shut up
     
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  16. .K.

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    Him not being around for the last two albums has no consequence here, as the song and lawsuit in question LP is attached to. Yet you referred to him as a white man.

    Also, telling someone to shut up even though you are wrong is not a quality of the kind of person I want to converse with.

    Have a nice day.
     
  17. slickdtc

    Regular Supporter

    My bad, wasn’t meant that way. I was speaking more for myself. I listen to a whole lot of music, but I don’t know jack about how to compose it, notes, etc. Just a consumer. I’ve never played an instrument in my life, besides what they made us play in elementary school.

    I find how people are at complete odds on this lawsuit fascinating and am interested to hear what the courts decide.
     
  18. Ryan

    Might be Spider-Man...

    Breathe e-troll. Also, Lights and Sounds is a better record. Criminally underrated too.
     
  19. .K.

    Trusted Prestigious

    Lights and Sounds is a really good record. Looking forward to Ryan’s first full length.
     
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  20. Analog Drummer

    Regular

    I love yellowcard, but yep, I can barely hear it, they’re grasping at straws here, might as well do a reunion if strapped for cash
     
  21. Over looked post in this thread. That lawyer is virtually the reason these cases go to court these days. He won the famous “Blurred Lines” case.
     
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  22. DandonTRJ

    ~~~ヾ(^∇^ Supporter

    I actually worked with the attorneys on the other side of the Blurred Lines case, and I can confirm that ruling still chaps their asses. But yeah, Busch has his fingerprints all over modern music copyright law. His Bridgeport case in the Sixth Circuit scared everyone away from unlicensed sampling for years until the Ninth Circuit bucked it in the Vogue case. He’s also currently trying to get the Music Modernization Act declared (partially) unconstitutional. Not a man to be fucked with.
     
  23. Analog Drummer

    Regular

    I assume it must be a case that yellowcard got him first, but wouldn’t Juice wrld have plenty more cash than the YC boys to be affording the top dog in music law
     
  24. The Lucky Moose

    I'm Emotional, I Hug the Block

    I hope this leads to all pop punk bands suing each other for stealing each other's song, would be fun to watch
     
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  25. atlas

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    I hope this leads to pop punk as a genre ceasing to exist bc everyone is suing each other and no one wants to get sued