Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Melody Bot, Oct 22, 2019.
We're forgetting the more important thing here; Yellowcard had the better song also...
Don't like this at all. Save your lawsuits for corporations using your music without consent etc, not a kid who was influenced by the kind of music you made. The songs are not nearly as similar as the complaint makes it seem. Plus, this seems pretty bold given Holly Wood the character on the album is basically the same idea Marilyn Manson had BEFORE Yellowcard and his was called Holy Wood. I know which example makes me think "they ripped that idea off" more...
Roughly 140k views the last day, kinda crazy
Nas should sue Juice WRLD too I guess. Listen to “The Message.”
That matters literally 0% to this.
bunch of old white dudes suing a young black artist for 15 mil is such a great look
God can they just stay dead? I thought they'd shut up after their seemingly endless breakup tour finally finished
I hear it ... I think?
Man I was ready to rip into juice wrld over this but that's a huge stretch.
The yellow card verse and juice wrld hooks are very similar. Kind of lame to sue IMO.
Good way of explaining this. It’s hard for the untrained ear to pick it out since the genres are so different. Stripped down helps pull those layers away.
Not at all a fan of these sorts of cases. They seem to be becoming more common and the justification for them more woolly. If your argument is that playing both songs in a more simple fashion would show them to be similar, does that not suggest that the finished articles aren't? Because that's what people are actually paying to listen to.
Also, given that music is kind of finite in terms of combinations, I'm not convinced anyone should be suing over chord progressions or melodies like this. I've yet to see one of these cases where they seemed justified. Possibly the Tom Petty one (particularly as the song writers pretty much crumbled immediately on that one).
As far as I can tell it's a very similar cadence but the melodies are just different enough to stop it being a note for note rip off. Not sure "kinda sounds the same" will hold up.
When are NFG going to slap the lawsuit on this one?
The funniest thing about this to me is that Yellowcard think Juice Wrld(the guy who would have been 6 years old when the song was released) has actually heard their song before
Did Juice WRLD even write this track?
If this was the standard for plagiarism in music, the industry would be completely untenable. This is extremely silly as are most of these cases
God this comment rubs me the wrong way. You don't have to have a "trained ear" to hear the similarity, that's awfully insulting to non-musicians, but either way this case is bullshit.
haha wow... yeah, that's a clear and blatant rip off. also, it sounds awful.
I won't pretend to be a lawyer with expertise in music copyright, but I think some people are a bit revisionist about the context of this situation. Juice WRLD is on a major label, having signed a pretty huge deal, and was nominated/won several major awards, for having some of the most streamed songs. So this isn't exactly them going after some random poor kid. He's part of the same machine they once were. And secondly, I think we'll always see lawsuits like this pop-up from time to time to remind song writers they need to be careful when producing hits that could lean too heavily into existing influences - whether this should be one of those times? That I don't know, maybe not.
but do you have a trained ear or not?