Yellowcard Suing Juice WRLD • Page 2

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Melody Bot, Oct 22, 2019.

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  2. Ryan

    Might be Spider-Man...

    We're forgetting the more important thing here; Yellowcard had the better song also...
     
  3. Steeeve Perry

    Regular

    Don't like this at all. Save your lawsuits for corporations using your music without consent etc, not a kid who was influenced by the kind of music you made. The songs are not nearly as similar as the complaint makes it seem. Plus, this seems pretty bold given Holly Wood the character on the album is basically the same idea Marilyn Manson had BEFORE Yellowcard and his was called Holy Wood. I know which example makes me think "they ripped that idea off" more...
     
  4. slimfenix182

    FUCKIN SAVAGES IN THAT FUCKIN BOX Supporter



    Roughly 140k views the last day, kinda crazy
     
  5. zeketheplmbr

    With ease Prestigious

    Nas should sue Juice WRLD too I guess. Listen to “The Message.”
     
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  6. Mibabalou

    MUFC / NYRB Prestigious

    interesting...
     
  7. cricketandclover

    Things have changed.

    That matters literally 0% to this.
     
  8. sophos34

    Prestigious Prestigious

    bunch of old white dudes suing a young black artist for 15 mil is such a great look
     
  9. ArmsLikeTeeth

    Trusted Supporter

    God can they just stay dead? I thought they'd shut up after their seemingly endless breakup tour finally finished
     
  10. Damien Davies

    Bounty hunting is a complicated profession Supporter

    I hear it ... I think?
     
  11. atlas

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    [​IMG]
     
  12. dumpweed41

    Newbie

    Man I was ready to rip into juice wrld over this but that's a huge stretch.
     
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  13. Ska Senanake

    Trusted

    The yellow card verse and juice wrld hooks are very similar. Kind of lame to sue IMO.
     
  14. slickdtc

    Regular Supporter

    Good way of explaining this. It’s hard for the untrained ear to pick it out since the genres are so different. Stripped down helps pull those layers away.
     
  15. MrCon

    I was trying to describe myself to someone

    Not at all a fan of these sorts of cases. They seem to be becoming more common and the justification for them more woolly. If your argument is that playing both songs in a more simple fashion would show them to be similar, does that not suggest that the finished articles aren't? Because that's what people are actually paying to listen to.

    Also, given that music is kind of finite in terms of combinations, I'm not convinced anyone should be suing over chord progressions or melodies like this. I've yet to see one of these cases where they seemed justified. Possibly the Tom Petty one (particularly as the song writers pretty much crumbled immediately on that one).
     
  16. Preserved Moose

    Gritty pre-Computer Days

    As far as I can tell it's a very similar cadence but the melodies are just different enough to stop it being a note for note rip off. Not sure "kinda sounds the same" will hold up.
     
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  17. SpinelessYesBloke

    Newbie

    When are NFG going to slap the lawsuit on this one?
     
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  18. Jake W

    I don't want your London drugs Supporter

    The funniest thing about this to me is that Yellowcard think Juice Wrld(the guy who would have been 6 years old when the song was released) has actually heard their song before
     
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  19. somethingwitty

    Regular

    Did Juice WRLD even write this track?
     
  20. Wharf Rat

    I know a little something you won't ever know Prestigious

    If this was the standard for plagiarism in music, the industry would be completely untenable. This is extremely silly as are most of these cases
     
  21. ArmsLikeTeeth

    Trusted Supporter

    God this comment rubs me the wrong way. You don't have to have a "trained ear" to hear the similarity, that's awfully insulting to non-musicians, but either way this case is bullshit.
     
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  22. bradsonemanband

    Trusted Supporter

    haha wow... yeah, that's a clear and blatant rip off. also, it sounds awful.
     
  23. KyleK

    Let's get these people moving faster! Supporter

    I won't pretend to be a lawyer with expertise in music copyright, but I think some people are a bit revisionist about the context of this situation. Juice WRLD is on a major label, having signed a pretty huge deal, and was nominated/won several major awards, for having some of the most streamed songs. So this isn't exactly them going after some random poor kid. He's part of the same machine they once were. And secondly, I think we'll always see lawsuits like this pop-up from time to time to remind song writers they need to be careful when producing hits that could lean too heavily into existing influences - whether this should be one of those times? That I don't know, maybe not.
     
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  24. bradsonemanband

    Trusted Supporter

    but do you have a trained ear or not?

    kidddddddddddding
     
  25. bradsonemanband

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