Wrestling Thread 9: Lets go Chuck Taylor, you're the best wrestler in the world • Page 97

Ill be honest. I don't get the Rollins faction in kayfabe. Rollins cut like 30minutes of promos to try and spell it out but.....idk i dont get it.

Rollins is saying the same promos he's always cut except he's now friends with Bron and Heyman (neither of which were heels recently)....and sami comes out like Seth is some jerk who's ruining the company or something?

Maybe if they ran rough shot for a few weeks or they outright started beating up rando babyfaces or taking over the show....or just clearly said what the goal of this group is. "This is the future"...okay, in like what way?

Im confused.

 

They came out so good. They look so good in person too, money definitely well spent.

 

Swerve the draw baby

 

Think the idea here is that Seth has spent the last several years railing against The Bloodline and their tactics for staying on top, and now he (unbeknownst to him) is doing the exact same thing. He created a faction to ensure the company doesn't fall into a stranglehold like that again, and doesn't realize that he's become the monster he hated. Sami was sort of alluding to the idea, and I think they'll keep expanding on it going forward.

Also seems to be the general direction given that Seth isn't really heeling on the crowd in any way. He still sees himself as the same guy, unchanged.

I do agree that they could've done a better job getting here, though, because so far, the crowd seems totally unwilling to boo him, even up against Sami.

 

Probably not gonna word this right but it’s kinda like how someone was saying earlier about the crowds just cheering everything. It’s good and bad problem. Because for years the crowd didn’t give a shit about anyone other than like 3/4 people. Now WWE has gotten so hot again that the crowd loves it just as a brand. The majority of the wrestlers are over to a pretty good degree. But now it’s up to the writing to give the crowd a reason to react certain ways. It’s almost too nuanced now. Which works in some situations but not all. We need that big overt heel turn or face turn. Think about Roman, Seth, Bron even, they were heels that became faces without ever changing anything. And now Seth and Bron are heels again but still besides double crossing Roman (who should technically still be a heel because he didn’t have the obvious face turn) they having done anything crazy bad yet.

 

In general, I can shut my brain off and eventually get it. It's wrestling. It's a faction. They want to be at the top....and if the twist is Seth is a reluctant heel (or whatever) then I'm into it.

I think the Sami part was too soon. Sami acting like Seth did some atrocious act. Lol its been 2 weeks and all that's been happening is Seth continuing his hatred for his wrestlemania rivals.

They put Sami in there be cause he's the ultimate babyface so they figured this is how to get the faction over as heels but idk....clunky and too early

 

I couldn't agree more. It's most likely the writing but the heels aren't doing a great job of being assholes and getting the reactions the wwe wants (and needs) to get the story told well.

Honestly, it makes me like Becky's heel promo a lot more because she turned it up 100x notches right away. Yelling, sounding whiny, calling bayley a bitch, Lyra irrelevant etc etc. Easy peasy make it mega obvious that Becky is a piece of shit and take it from there..

Thats why I think cena heel turn is disappointing. "Dysfunctional relationship" isn't going to cut it. Seth so far just cutting the same "I'm a visionary and this is Monday night rolljns", isn't going to cut it. And in fact it's getting fans to boo the other guys.

 

hangman v fletcher tomorrow

 

I mean, that was always the WWE's dream. Every wrestler has a nickname/catchphrase jammed down your throat.

Its the new Heyman group, they'll come out on a ton of shows, cut the same 10-15min promo, have the same run-ins and beat downs with minor tweaks, and at like MITB they'll have a wrinkle (a new member or something). Feels weird to say it, but I at least appreciate that CM Punk keeps his programs a little more varied.

 

If they want Seth full heel they need to get rid of the music

 

Completely agree. Also if crowd chants "one more time" (for a power move). Don't give it to them.

 

Also Steph/Ivy and Rhea\Roxanne rocked last night

 

Oh fuck!

 

NXT breaking up Metafour, particularly the Meta Girls, is ruining me. Lash will be a star but Jakara still needs this team.

 

Yeah Mefa-Four should have made it to the main roster

 

Timothy Thatcher is back on NXT next week, is it? I mean, I know he's been wrestling in Evolve as he's working with the fed on the ID program, but will be cool to see him on NXT again.

 

As expected, summerslam tickets are crazy expensive. My friend just bought some during the presale, $234 for nosebleeds before fees, mid-level is $400-700

 

?

 

I'm just passing along what my friend told me, I don't plan on going

 

It's a mixed bag of prices it seems, especially for the upper levels, this is from ticketmaster just now

 

I’m good with just watching from my couch, watching wrestling in a stadium doesn’t seem enjoyable to me

 

$107 is still too much to see tiny dots wrestle a mile away

 

$107 and you can watch the action from manhattan with some binoculars

 

Hey I mean there's plenty of opportunity to get screen time these days. She had a few matches for the ic title that was okay...she was in damage cntrl the whole time...a few injuries...

Im sure she will get a few #1 contender matches eventually for whatever title. I'd say for the immediate she should find a partner and do a tag thing