Discussion in 'Sports Forum' started by Henry, Aug 17, 2018.
Yeah ROH is fucked
I'm not sure there is an end date to ROH's relationship with NJPW. I think I remember something about it potentially ending after Supercard.
Everyone is talking like it's over soon after the MSG show.
Can't ROH just partner up with AEW too? Just everyone combine forces against WWE.
No, keep Matt Taven away from AEW
ROH is on television. Doubtful they'd want to team up with another promotion that is also going to be on television.
AEW wanted Bandido supposedly and ROH wasted no time signing him to an exclusive deal. Along with Brody King.
Doubt we'll see ROH + AEW working together at all.
This is important.
They are gonna get desperate. What they want ain't gonna matter.
I'd rather them bring back Meat or any of the other shitty characters they introduced in some of the earlier games than her
i think the thing i am most insterested in with AEW is the “wins and losses will matter” bit. it’s especially a little funny because Jericho has shouted that wins and losses don’t matter from a mountain top for forever.
it’s going to be really hard to make that happen for any product with weekly TV without devolving into 50/50 booking or a plethora of distraction roll ups. we’ve seen companies try, as recently as that like week long “Smackdown Top Five” concept or whatever. Impact did a similar ranking system. it is often antithetical to telling multiple stories up and down the roster consistently
i feel like we see the return of the time limit draw, and i’d be all kinds of down for that.
They should adopt Chikara's model and give the winner of 3 matches in a row a title shot.
I think we see lots of NJPW style tag wrestling, but even with that it's tough. New Japan doesn't have that much TV.
the concern there is weekly tag mish mosh is what WWE fans are already tired of
Something similar to the Chikara points system is an easy way to implement wins and losses matter.
EDIT: Of all people to get ninja'd by....
That's true. The terrible redundant booking is what kills it for WWE though. As well as lack of variety, who knows how wide the spectrum will be for wrestlers in AEW , I feel like they will have a lot of talent involved. They also won't have to be featured every week.
Khan being the head of creative is interesting.
Hope he puts good people around him. He’s gonna need it.
I also laughed way too hard when Meltzer made a point to note that Khan had been a subscriber for 22 years
It works if you've got a half dozen solid story lines that lend themselves naturally to pairings. Like Ive been re-watching the build to WM17. A Kane/Undertaker v Rock/Austin match makes sense...Chris Jericho & The Rock vs. William Regal, Kurt Angle & Chris Benoit is a perfect mix of two feuds + a GM + getting the faces sympathy.
WWE's problem is the tag pairings make no sense. Cena, Balor, and Rollins have basically no connection (Balor recently helped Elias against Lashley...why aren't both there?). Neither guy came to help Rollins to end the show...even though Finn ran in to help earlier in the night. Matches that fill 45 minutes of the show while barely advancing a story or character are what fans hate.
edit: Also, if they put Ciampa/Gargano v Black/Ricochet as the main event of an NXT episode, people would be ecstatic.
Lucha Underground is a model to potentially follow. Definitely pulls from the NJPW faction style, but they do a pretty good job of protecting the top guys and having clear tiers of talent. A less cartoonish version would work really well as a baseline.
The advantage AEW has is they're already building a universe through BTE. WWE doesnt have any continuity like that at all.
Anyone catching UK Takeover?
I won't be able to watch it live unfortunately
There’s a big difference between a solid living and being a millionaire. And there’s a reason that WWE is where it is. Eventually AEW would have to have a schedule like WWE and a similar system to be as big/profitable. But I’m sure that pride is a big factor for some of these guys. But look at AJ... guy has it all.