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Women's Soccer (Football) Thread Soccer • Page 32

Discussion in 'Sports Forum' started by Meerkat, Mar 7, 2016.

  1. Garrett

    i tore a hole in the fabric of time Moderator

    Tbh I’d rather face France on current form in the quarters than Germany in the quarters, which seems to be the two options.
     
  2. DerekIsAGooner

    So assuming that this weekend...

    I'm having a hard time following which 3rd place teams have a chance to advance to the knockouts. Does the winner between Scotland and Argentina have a good shot of advancing?
     
  3. bobby_runs

    where would i be if i was my brain Prestigious

    IIRC Argentina yes ; Scotland would have to have things go their way I think.
     
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  4. StevenW92

    Regular

    Gutted for Scotland. Penalty against them in the 86th minute. Wasn’t taken until the 94th minute. Final whistle blows at 96. The use of VAR was a bit of a shambles in that game.

    England spent a lot of time on the back foot tonight but Japan barely created a clear cut chance. Couple of quality finishes from White. England really showed their pedigree against a top side. Was very impressed with Daly. Tough to see her staring ahead of Parris in the next round though.
     
  5. bobby_runs

    where would i be if i was my brain Prestigious

    Scotland collapse. Wow. But seriously how do they screw up the time so bad in this game? Ref also lost all control once Argentina fouled that Scotland player hard in order to get the VAR check.
     
  6. DerekIsAGooner

    So assuming that this weekend...

    I get the tournament's push to limit bookings and accumulation suspensions, but I definitely saw some tackles today in Scotland v Argentina that should have probably been given bookings in order to help establish more of a line in the match. Instead, things got way out of hand those final minutes.

    Also, how was there not extra time given after the stoppage? That was not 4 minute's worth of playing time.
     
  7. bobby_runs

    where would i be if i was my brain Prestigious

    VAR came in because of the hard foul on the Scotland player

    Took forever to actually go to monitor

    Ref talked forever to goalie

    Shithousery with Scotland at the spot

    Ref talking to same Scotland player

    Just a complete mess with that
     
  8. Professor Plumbob

    Trusted Supporter

    USA on top early!
     
  9. Ferrari333SP

    Prestigious Supporter

    Sweden getting some chances, but USA looking really good
     
  10. orangehorizon

    Trusted

    Goal should not count, she is clearly interfering.
     
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  11. Ferrari333SP

    Prestigious Supporter

    VAR is wack this tournament

    Still, USA looking great
     
  12. Preserved Moose

    Amateur Hour

    Definite offside there. You can't say she wasn't interfering when she moved towards the ball and was touching the defender. Terrible decision.
     
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  13. DerekIsAGooner

    So assuming that this weekend...

    As much personal bias I have for the USA, that was offside.
     
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  14. Preserved Moose

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    I'm blaming the ref more than VAR. Should have been a chance to show how VAR can work well to catch an offside the officials missed but she made a bad decision.
     
  15. orangehorizon

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    That's the problem with VAR. It could be a good tool to catch blatant mistakes by the ref but instead it is mostly used to overturn either slight offside positions or grant ridiculous hand penalties, or, the newest trend, let penalties be repeated until the penalty taker scores. And then way too often it isn't used for obvious fouls (or when the ball is clearly out before a corner kick...).
     
  16. Preserved Moose

    Amateur Hour

    The handballs have been a joke recently for sure. I think the offside law needs to be changed (again!) to stop things like tonight though rather than the VAR. The new rules about not interfering if you don't take a blatant swing at the ball or something are terrible when you're standing right next to the defender and forcing them to try and clear it just from your presence. It's so unfair.
     
  17. Garrett

    i tore a hole in the fabric of time Moderator

    Kinda feels like the US and Germany are on a collision course after all the rounds have been played.
     
  18. DerekIsAGooner

    So assuming that this weekend...

    I'm kicking myself right now for not getting that quarterfinal ticket in Paris on the 28th.
     
  19. orangehorizon

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    Not sure if I misunderstand you but the offside rule itself is pretty good. No need to change it. By the current rules the second US goal should have been ruled offside.
     
  20. Preserved Moose

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    The current rule is that you can be in an offside position but if you don't make an obvious attempt to play the ball then you don't get penalised. Tonight's goal was allowed because I assume the ref thought Lloyd didn't make an obvious attempt to play the ball so she wasn't interfering with play. I don't think that's fair because she was right in the mix and forced the defender to try and clear it.
     
  21. orangehorizon

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    But that was more a wrong evaluation of the ref. By the current rules this should have been offside. Hence no need to change the rules.
     
  22. Preserved Moose

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    I dunno. If you're standing offside but miles away from the ball then fine, let it go, but if your presence forces a defender to play the ball then I think it's interfering whether you make an attempt to touch it or not.
     
  23. orangehorizon

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    Exactly how it is written in the current rules, hence it should have been ruled offside.
     
  24. Preserved Moose

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    I know it should have been. I agree with you haha. I'm saying I don't like that the "attempt to play the ball" part of the law exists and that if it didn't then tonight's goal would have been disallowed without giving the ref a chance to allow it at all.
     
  25. orangehorizon

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    See, that's where we disagree. The US player today definitely attempted to play the ball (she even made a little jump to block the ball), so it should have been ruled offside 100%. There's no two opinions in my mind even with the current rules. I think the current rules are good enough as they are, they just need to be enforced properly.