I gave one band as an example. This was a different situation in itself. Other posters said they weren't going to buy records from other bands on Rise just because they were on Rise with no other issues surrounding them.
So then kids can go listen to chief Keef or whatever popular rap songs there are today and pick up the same mentalities. What great music to influence the younger generations
If you don't think those lyrics are disgusting I think you've got some issues you didn't work out from your teenage years.
Bad example choice, pal! It doesn't hurt you any if people don't want to buy mediocre pop punk records. I don't feel inclined to support a label like Rise if they want to put out sexist, garbage music. There are plenty of ways to support artists you like without giving money to the label. As consumers, we have the power to vote with our dollars- if they don't want to lose money, they can stop putting out things like this.
This a straight fallacy, you're saying this should be fine because you think something else is worse, instead of acknowledging two things could be negative. Or even that one thing clearly is negative without bringing up an unrelated thing to distract from the conversation. And one of the biggest rap songs out right now is about mental health and suicide prevention. Keep being ignorant and angry.
I think every single page of this thread goes through the exact same progression of the discussion. You gotta love all the "what about"-ism, straight out of the alt-right/MRA playbook.
im not saying that at all im just saying look it exists in other genres of music too. with Rap and Hip Hop there is far more garbabe artists and lyrics than the punk/emo whatever you call it scene.
Literally no one has been denying this. But you have to realize that your deflection argumentative style isn't really working here and that's why people are staying on the topic at hand.
I'm sure this has been said many times throughout the thread, but I just can't believe in the year 2017 Rise heard this song and was like "Yeah, yep, this is okay! Let's even give it a video!"
It's a logical fallacy dude, you're trying to undermine critical reaction to something with some bullshit whattaboutism to a different issue, this has been discussed like three times in this thread already. By trying to shift blaming you're implying that misogynistic lyrics like this are not an issue, that the known abusers and rapists this scene has produced are not a problem because there are other bad people and who cares really we should shut up
I'm not sure if it fits within this site, but will you be posting a thread about Xxxtentacion? The story is pretty insane.
See why I have one generic answer instead of answering the 5000 individual different "will you" or "why do you" posts? Cause it always happens. (And I'm just about to post about that P4k article covering the testimony.)
I'm just saying where the mega threads like these for artists in rap genre. People can acknowledge all they want but the pitchforks are never out with a 20 page thread for artists in other genres
This has come up several times before (although I think saying "there is far more garbage artists and lyrics" in rap/hip hop is inaccurate and problematic), but 1) that is not the discussion we're having, while these issues are similar, and somewhat related, they can (and should) be discussed separately; and 2) the discussion about rap and hip hop can be quite problematic when the voices providing the criticism are straight, white, cis-male voices (like myself).