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Why I Deleted the Recent Makeout Video Post

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Melody Bot, Sep 7, 2017.

  1. Melody Bot

    Your friendly little forum bot. Staff Member

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    On Tuesday I posted the new video for a band called Makeout here on the website. I had posted about the band before, they’re on Rise Records, they recorded an album with John Feldmann, and the first single sounded like pretty standard pop-punk music that people like. So, I posted the new video without even listening to the song.

    That was a mistake.

    Not long after, I checked the forums and I saw people commenting on the lyrical content. I clicked over to the YouTube channel and read the lyrics. They’re disgusting sexist bullshit. (Also, the song sucks.) I deleted the news post from this site and won’t be posting about this album again. I debated if I wanted to write a post explaining this because I knew it would draw more attention to the song, and because I know the exact responses that will come from a certain type of internet commenter. However, I think it’s important to speak out about this kind of bullshit when we see it in our music scene. I hope that the band take some time to listen to the criticism coming their way right now and think about what kind of musicians and artists they want to be. (So far, it seems to be going about as I expected.) If any member wants to reach out to me privately, I’d be happy to explain my thoughts in more detail and what I think they should do going forward. You all look relatively young, you can do the right thing here and be better.

    And, on that note: I recommend following Megan Thompson and Anna Acosta on Twitter for more, and I’m sorry that I let this video slip through when I posted it the first time.

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  2. SEANoftheDEAD


    Don't know what song was posted but just read their lyrics for the song "Secrets". Yikes.
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  3. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

    i'm curious @Jason Tate , since this sets a sort of precedent here and i'd love to have a discussion about this. what is the border between something that you are posting and something that you wouldn't? i ask just because i know that you continue to post things about neck deep and moose blood, even when members that have committed gross acts are still in the band. i know obviously it's always your discretion and you might not be aware of some cases, but in the cases of acts doing gross shit getting posts on here, should we bring that to your attention? i'm just curious going forward
  4. cricketandclover

    Things have changed.

    The song is absolutely disgusting. Shame Travis Barker has put his name all over this project.
  5. cricketandclover

    Things have changed.

    That's the song.
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  6. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    How old are these kids? 12? Who the fuck let them record this shit?
  7. sophos34 Prestigious

    Based on the way this guys reacting on twitter I'm guessing he's about...9 years old
  8. smoke4thecaper

    out of context reference Supporter

    Wanna know why millennials get such a bad rap? Read the lyrics to this trite, foolish, embarrassing, and outright disgustingly juvenile garbage. The very fact that both Rise and Feldmann shrugged this song off and gave it the green light is enough for me to drive my head into the damn wall. Song seriously reads like a poorly-constructed tumblr blog from a Ronnie Radke diehard.
  9. Turkeylegz


    Talk about disgusting. This scene deserves far better and I think not promoting them goes a long way in doing that. Thanks for doing so and raising awareness on it as well.
  10. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

    no reason to put this on millennials, these lyrics are no different in intent from many pop punk songs from the last 15 years that people here still love
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  11. sophos34 Prestigious

    those are millennials too
  12. smoke4thecaper

    out of context reference Supporter

    I wasn't. Chill. But in all seriousness, bands of this ilk - the new generation of "pop punk" - are mostly horrible, hence my remark.
  13. Larry David

    I'll see you again in 25 years Prestigious

    That Twitter exchange was so well done. @Jason Tate for President.
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  14. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

    2001 jesse lacey and 2003 pete wentz?

    the term is fucking stupid anyways lol
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  15. AP_Punk

    achin' to be Prestigious

    wow, this band sucks on so many levels.

    the fact that they went out of their way to construct a problematic video (one which ends in the singer getting arrested for basically committing harassment/abuse) for a problematic song shows how shitty they are.
  16. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

    what about a fun little song called "tell that mick" by fall out boy
  17. sophos34 Prestigious

    Millennials are from like 1980-2000 lol
  18. honkytonk

    Narcissism on narcotics

    Checked out the song cause of this post. Definitely crude and juvenile lyrically. Idk this whole resentful ex tone comes off as unsavoury when put into music. I wouldn't have really thought twice about it, to be honest, so I appreciate you making a point to call it out and retract your statement because it's made me think critically about the music I listen to.
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  19. sophos34 Prestigious

    check again
  20. cricketandclover

    Things have changed.

    Bayside had a song that literally said:

    I'd grab your head by your hair and I'd hack it off.
    And put it on display at the front of the yard
    on a stick that's decorated with a little pink bow
    and a sign that says "Her friends and family should have taught her more about love."

    Now, I believe Raneri has addressed it, but they were writing about this shit back in the day and it was gross then.
  21. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    Holy shit, the video makes it even worse.
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  22. Bayside 182

    Wolverine Supporter

    While I agree that the lyrics are terrible and ridiculous, they really aren't that different from the stuff we listened to and loved in the early 2000's. Even though at my age now I can't listen to a song like this, I feel that its just very immature songwriting but 15 years ago no one would have batted an eye at these lyrics. I'm not defending the song at all, I'm just saying its a bit hypocritical to pick out this band specifically.
  23. bodkins

    Trusted Supporter

    Those lyrics are ridiculous. Good call, Jason.
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  24. rxbandit89

    probably over-caffeinated.

    Can't wait to pick up that new Propagandhi on the 29th. Just saying....
  25. cricketandclover

    Things have changed.

    I'd like to think society in general has matured in the past 15 years and realized we can't talk about and to people like that. Saying "that's how it was done in the past" is a bad bad defense.