Yeah, I mean, obviously, this is anecdotal, but I saw that tour in Nashville at Bridgestone Arena, which holds 20,000, and it was sold out, people losing their fucking minds. That was when "High Hopes" was going supernova and was seemingly the most inescapable song in the world, so things were definitely at a peak for him then. His story is a fascinating case-study in peaks and valleys (i.e. Fever to Pretty.Odd, PFTW to Viva Las Vengeance).
I could be totally wrong, I found some stats on that tour and they were drawing 10-11k in arenas that held 20k+. There’s a video from Denver on YouTube that is the full set and it didn’t look particularly full.
Most arena shows for concerts don’t actually hold 20K - like the Cavs arena holds 20,100 for Cavs games but a concert the cap is like, anywhere between 13 & 15K depending on stage set up and how many sections/seats are blocked off behind the stage. Regardless - I am fairly certain the PFTW tour was wildly successful and if it had not been, why would he try arenas again just 2/3 years later? The Wikipedia page for the tour also shows attendance for each show and not sure how accurate it is, but looks like mostly sellouts. Pray for the Wicked Tour - Wikipedia
Fair enough, I was going off of this and saw Staples Center listed at 13K when the concert cap is supposed to be 20,000, but their stage blocked off a good chunk of the arena from what I saw on Youtube. I guess Panic is way bigger than I thought; I always considered them as a band with a couple really big songs but not a ton going on between Fever and "High Hopes".
Yeah, the Cleveland (PFTW) tour was sold out in Cleveland and I specifically remember that show because Northeast Ohio was essentially completely shutdown due to temperatures in the below zeros. Schools and businesses were closed for 3 or 4 days.
Honestly, I'm not going to lie, I just now realized that High Hopes isn't a Fall Out Boy song. Literally thought it was FOB.
Knocked Loose is killing it. I really want to see them, someday. Also Alexisonfire billed at the very bottom is a crime imo
Surprised TBS are back again. They tour so much and their performance seemed so bad this year, but I guess that would never have played in as this lineup would’ve been in place well before that. As others have said, this festival has peaked in terms of its overall pull. This lineup is cool but it doesn’t seem like it would sell better than the previous years. I’m sure I could be underestimating Panic’s ability to sell tickets, but we’ll see.
I assume TBS is a pretty cheap get and a big enough name that despite how awful reviews are for their live performance, they’ll still get people to watch for the nostalgia.
This is definitely the least I’ve been excited about a WWWY lineup. It still has a good 8 bands I want to see, but that’s a big drop off from the list of 20 I put together before this year’s festival. I’m really excited for the letlive., Set Your Goals, and Straylight Run reunions. I’m always down to see The Movielife, and seeing Arms Length at this festival will be a special thing. I’ll probably still go this year, but it doesn’t have me jumping in excitement like every other year has.
I think the bands in the middle on the poster should be read as the same status as bands like Gaslight Anthem, Bad Religion or INK and not read from top to bottom. In the 2022 poster Jimmy Eat World was at the bottom of the middle column but their font was bigger, same way Alexisonfire this year. On the same way Jack's Mannequin is a bigger get than Breathe Caroline, and TSSF is bigger than Sunami.
To clarify, the middle column is billed above the side bands. So Alexisonfire is technically above Bad Religion, Ice Nine Kills, Motionless in White, etc.
I'm on the same boat, i've typically bought the tickets as they went on sale. I wonder how it went for those that bought aftermarket wristbands at the last minute for this year's when we were young.
Ughh... I forgot about that... 'No hidden fees' except for when we arbitrarily raise prices if you don't make it through the virtual line in time. I only think the tiers are fair when it increases as you get closer, and the cheapest tier is to buy sight unseen with no lineup. Otherwise it's just yet another crooked tactic to rob the consumer. Good luck!
I think most of the issues were people who got their wristbands super late due to USPS delays. I saw people having success selling on Cash or Trade and meeting up in person weekend of.
I got a Sunday wristband this year for $200, I met the seller in Vegas the same day I arrived, paid in cash and everything went smooth. If you wanna try this, I recommend joining the multiple facebook groups and only buy if they are willing to meet in person in Vegas. I saw some people selling their wristband for lower than $100 the day of the festival! Its risky as you travel with no ticket, but it can pay off so you dont pay full price.
You could get after market for as low as $200 or so for this year the week of. People buy them and plans change; I’d almost guarantee they open Sunday like usual and that doesn’t sell out.