I never got to see them live and at some point preferred them over Taking back sunday, but yeah it is hard to ignore how bad him and Adam sound live nowadays.
The "confirmed" Warped acts are only confirmed based on a post here. If Warped is advertising 100 bands at $150 and WWWY is 50 at $325, the gap between them is pretty huge.
I won’t be going to this again because that time of year is brutal for me for time off work, but letlive. and SYG would be my two absolute must sees. Overall the lineup is decent
I'm sure they're lovely people and I mean no disrespect - though I guess there's no other way to take this so, whoops - but how in the hell does Red Jumpsuit Apparatus get asked four years in a row and Early November can't even get asked once?
Dont confuse quantity to quality. Panic at the Disco probably cost 4 million bucks to book, which is probably more than half of Warped's budget. Sure Warped could book 20 bands for the same cost as booking Panic, but will any of those bands have enough draw power to get 80,000 people to travel to a destination festival?
Also something to consider, would you realistically see more bands at one festival vs the other in a day?
Lineup is very odd, but I'll probably end up buying a ticket anyway lol. Feels like a lot of early-2000's bands with a healthy dollop of modern metalcore on the undercard. Not unwelcome, but definitely a hard left turn from past 3 years. As a straight-up pop-punk fan, the lack of 2010's Warped Tour punk on the undercard feels pretty shocking. The Story So Far & All Time Low feel like the "newest" pop-punk bands on the lineup, despite both being almost 20 years old. (obligatory "Fuck All Time Low" post, lol) If they got Neck Deep, State Champs, The Wonder Years, Real Friends, Knuckle Puck, or even Waterparks, they could have filled that gap in the lineup, imo. I mean, I like Beartooth, Ice Nine Kills, & Knocked Loose as much as the next guy, but I feel like the metal festival scene is saturated enough as it is. Anyways I love Blink & Panic, and I loved this festival this year, so I'll probably pull up, but yeah definitely an odd lineup.
Rja is like the perfect undercard band… had a legitimate radio hit but fell off hard so that theyre super cheap but can still have that casual fest goer draw
Red Jumpsuit Apparatus probably offers to do it for extremely cheap and they need to fill out a poster lol
Touring bandmates for Panic during the solo Brendon show have been sharing and commenting so it’s pretty much confirmed that Ryan, Jon, and Spencer won’t be a part of it.
It's also pretty telling that people say "we want Warped Tour back" and then expect it to be loaded with gold-tier headliners. Nobody actually wants Warped Tour back. They just want a new festival with all of the bands they used to love when they went to Warped Tour. The sub-headliners for WWYF are about the size I'd expect for a Warped Tour headliner. But I could also see them having like 2-3 of the same headliners and they "rotate" who closes each city. Which could honestly work really well with the right combination of bands and a deep enough line-up with some younger artists... But I don't think it'll be anything close to what WWYF is doing. Nor should it be, TBH.
I don't have numbers for Panic's most recent tour, but they were struggling to fill arenas and playing them half full on the Pray For The Wicked tour. Giving Brendon $4M to play an album with fill-ins who didn't write it feels like a waste when they just disbanded a little over a year ago.
I was talking about this the other day. Warped only had 3-4 big bands a year, Warped ruled because it was legitimately the up-and-coming bands that were the main draw, because you could see tons of them. I wish we somehow could get a new version of that, not the nostalgia fest all these big fests have become.
Feels like they are banking on the festival itself drawing people in at this point and not as much the lineup.
I mean....Ryan Ross was never going to play High Hopes live. Still the possibility of a split set / lineup. Anberlin had both vocalists just this year.
Collect a few million for one show for the band that's been just you, and more successful as just you, seems a lot more tempting than reuniting and splitting the money with some people you don't get along with and haven't talked to in two decades. Just my guess though.