I guess I had it in my head that bands had 30-40 min set times, which cuts off potentially 3-4 songs if you had a shorter set, but it doesn’t sound like anyone had to cut *that* much short. so I think my broader question is did they do anything differently to give the average bands more time to play a full album (or most of one+others) compared to warped which cut off everyone at 30, or was there a correlation between bands with shorter sets not playing full albums? I haven’t gone either year so I’m just trying to reconcile what all seemed like logistical impossibilities with what sounds like a generally successful experience.
From the outside looking in it seems like bands were asked to play albums and no thought was gone into how long those albums were. Maybe don't ask Coheed to play a 70+ minute album?
from Mike’s ama from a few weeks ago, bands weren’t asked. They were told what they were playing, and they were told after agreeing to play wwwy.
They must've been paying a ton of money for bands to not pitch a huge fit about that. I know a few still did, but still.
"Pretty standard TBS" isn't a good excuse. If anyone should be lip syncing, it should probably be them haha.
I'm hearing some pretty rough reviews to the lame crowds this year. Little to no moshing, or even movement at all. I'm glad I went in 2023 then
I saw The Used open for Taking Back Sunday and Blink 182 20 years ago and The Used were hands down the best of the three live. Good to know it's only gotten worse.
mcr was so good! I was so tired though lol. got to see all the bands I loved in 2010 (boys like girls we the kings the maine even hey monday despite the underwhelming set). v happy saw all of the above + mayday parade, the used (great), silverstein (one of the best sets), we the kings (great but still mad about august is over >:)) saves the day, a bit of nada surf, snippets of jimmy and hawthorne I watched a bit of the starting line and felt bad for Kenny. clearly didn't want to be there but was trying to put on a show regardless.
Made a shirt for Saturday and had a great time at UO’s set! Overall great day, Stay What You Are was my favorite of it all - but holy cow an I out on festivals now. Too many people.
I went both days and have bruises from the pits I was in, but definetly I expected more and bigger ones. Still had a blast tho! Easy to move around and grab a good spot for almost every set
Okay I'm hearing this from friends who don't typically mosh but then again idk what the side stages or the early pits were like. I'm not talking the end...hey, even for me, by the time Green Day came around my tank was on empty
I will repeat what I say every time TBS live is criticized...if you are going to see TBS for some incredible musicianship you are at the wrong show....you go to see TBS live to jump around and scream lyrics with a crowd of like minded fans
But it's not about simply the act of moshing, and i think that's something that a lot of anti-mothers dont get.... there's a sort of energy that a crowd with "movement" bring vs no movement. It also makes it tougher to go stage to stage without movement. I am not a violent mosher by any means, but if i can't hop up and down and have a good time, then I'm not interested. I pick my shows based on my assumption of their being good movement. If I don't think that's gonna happen then I skip it
unpopular opinion: moshing is fine, crowd surfing has always bothered me, especially jumping on people or trying to pull up on someone to get up. I'm a bigger dude, so I understand how "first world problems" this sounds since I can always see the stage well, but I absolutely hate getting jumped on unexpectedly or having someone think that just because I'm tall means you can use my body as a ladder to get on top of the crowd.
I think everybody's definition of "moshing" is also fully different. Whenever I hear that a show like this has "no moshing" or whatever, my brain auto-corrects it to "people weren't really moving or dancing at all." Which isn't all that uncommon for your average festival. Especially one that draws in people who don't usually go to shows.