They went directly against mainstage Avril in 2022 and then mainstage Death Cab once Avril dropped the second weekend. I remember them being sarcastic on stage making comments about Death Cab playing at the same time.
Aka we don’t want to rehearse songs we haven’t played in 15yrs and would rather play our greatest hits tour set. kind of a shitty move by them.
What sort of "visual spectacle" were they doing on a festival that uses rotating stages and pretty sparse set pieces? This totally sounds like Tyson's just being a diva.
And then Tyson played last year with Now More Than Ever and they had about 50 people watching their set because nobody knew who they were.
Pretty bad look for the band but equally surprising the festival didn't give in and allow them to do a standard set instead of dropping altogether. Weird situation overall.
I saw them live a few years ago, and you aren't missing anything, it was one of the worst live sets I have had the displeasure of hearing
Looking at setlist.fm, I’m shocked they have basically only played 4-5 unique songs from AAR and Move Along over the last 10 years. I suppose they know they could make money with a Move Along tour and they haven’t done that either.
I really don't think not doing the album play is the reason they dropped. I'm sure both the band and the management would prefer they stayed on the lineup and just played a normal set. It seems more likely to me they're upset with some aspect of how they're slotted on the bill. Either not being mainstage, being pitted in a conflict, or not being given the production accomdoations they expected.
As people have been saying, probably had some production issue that wasn't working. Band probably lost a bunch of $$$ as I'm sure you're penalized for pulling out of fests last minute unless it's for certain reasons.
It just seems too coincidental that the only band that has been openly against performing their album is the one dropping out.
My only real question is does anyone think they’ll get a replacement? I would assume it wouldn’t be an album play but who would even be available?! Maybe Boys Like Girls? Yellowcard?
Boys Like Girls are playing the Simple Plan aftershow. Stand Atlantic are playing the ADTR one if they want to go on the route of more women representation in the lineup
I wouldn't mind Waterparks ngl Probably attending as fans anyway plus might be in town for the Hopeless Records thing (attended the one in Cleveland or wherever it was)
He did an interview a few weeks ago with Jesea (the second one) trashing WWWY because he said they never consulted the band about their set. I get the impression he thinks they're above the nostalgia set and that they're too good for it. It's ego for sure.
Having an open slot on the lineup might be a good idea if it lets them stretch things out instead of cramming it all in and things feeling rushed.
I get the impression, well, I know for a fact, that they did this with other bands too (and one band was big enough to be like ... want us to play? can we guess who that could be). If they didn't tell the band, how's that ego? and not the festival misrepresenting an offer and declaring the band will do something they didn't agree to? Should hear the drama about the reunion set where the lead singer didn't tell the band how much they were getting paid to reunite as a band and then pocketed like 99.9% of it. That sounds more like ego to me than whatever this is. This is the band who just did a round of press talking about how they know they're basically a nostalgia act and have nothing new in them to give fans or whatever that was.