I think corporations coming up with ways to take advantage of people, and ensuring they spend money that they cant afford vs making it more affordable, is the scummy part. This is a big expense regardless, but the fact that anything can go on a payment plan these days is sort of insane. At the end of the day, its personal decisions and financial discipline, but it definitely can be veiwed as predatory.
People’s inability to understand what “tickets start at 19.99 down” means does not make it predatory. Let’s not get carried away and sanitize what those words mean. Choosing to attend a festival is 1000% optional and nobody is forcing anything on anybody here. It’s also giving way too much credit to people who are too careless to read all the words in a sentence.
The $19.99 downpayment seemed pretty straightforward. I thought that was a pretty standard practice for a big fest like this
People on Reddit are complaining about a bunch and it just me how bad of reading comprehension a large amount people have
I misread, my bad. My comment was solely based on the prevelance of payment plans these days and the pros and cons of that. I thought that was the discussion, not what a down payment meant. Still stand by the tier scheme being bullshit when the whole thing is guaranteed by precedent to sell out both days within hours of each going on sale.. No reason for it except to hide the pricing.
Poor JT Woodruff, their album is 43 minutes long, if they get 45-50 minutes then he won't be able to do his TED talk
The 5th stage is returning and it’s just HH playing 11 songs with JT talking between from 11am to midnight
Btw... yes I'm still talking about 2023 because I'm in total withdrawal mode.. When did Plain White Ts become a purely acoustic/Jason Mraz band? I was waiting for mxpx and caught a few songs by these guys and thats the vibe I was getting. I'm not a huge fan of theirs but I could've sworn they had regular pop punk songs too? What gives
random thought with various WWWY memories swirling in my head: where the hell is Unwritten Law on any of these bills? the band is kind of/somewhat active and did just release an album, so their absence is weird
1. Chiodos - Alls Well That Ends Well 2. The Forecast - In The Shadow Of Two Gunmen 3. Bayside - Self-Titled 4. Jimmy Eat World - Bleed American 5. Emery - The Weak's End 6. The Devil Wears Prada - Plagues 7. Senses Fail - Still Searching 8. Silverstein - Discovering The Waterfront 9. Armor For Sleep - What To Do When You Are Dead 10. Anberlin - Never Take Friendship Personal 11. Thursday - Full Collapse 12. Underoath - They're Only Chasing Safety 13. Coheed & Cambria - Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV 14. Fall Out Boy 15. My Chemical Romance - The Black Parade 16. Hawthorne Heights - The Silence In Black & White 17. Cartel - Chroma 18. Story Of The Year - Page Avenue 19. LS Dunes 20. Simple Plan - No Pads, No Helmet, Just Balls 21. We The Kings - Self Titled 22. The All American Rejects - Self-Titled 23. The Used - In Love & Death 24. The Starting Line - Say It Like You Mean It 25. August Burns Red - Constellations 26. Hey Monday - Hold On Tight 27. Dashboard Confessional - Dusk & Summer 28. The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus - Don't You Fake It 29. The Maine - Can't Stop, Won't Stop 30. Saosin - Self-Titled 31. Mayday Parade - A Lesson In Romantics 32. Alesana - The Emptiness 33. We Are The In Crowd - Weird Kids 34. Motion City Soundtrack - Commit This To Memory 35. New Found Glory - Sticks & Stones 36. Cobra Starship - !Viva La Cobra! 37. A Day To Remember - Homesick 38. Sleeping With Sirens - Let's Cheers To This 39. Four Year Strong - Enemy Of The World 40. Neck Deep - Life's Not Out To Get You 41. State Champs - The Finer Things 42. The Wonder Years - The Greatest Generation 43. Mom Jeans - Best Buds 44. Movements - Feel Something 45. Basement - Colour Me In Kindness 46. Pierce The Veil - Collide With The Sky. 47. Eacape The Fate - This War Is Ours 48. Atreyu - The Curse 49. Pretty Girls Make Graves - The New Romance 50. Nada Surf - Let Go 51. Daisy Grenade 52. Tonight Alive - The Other Side 53. Against The Current - Gravity 54. CARR 55. Saves The Day - Stay What You Are 56. Dance Gavin Dance - Mothership 57. The Distillers - Coral Fang 58. Say Anything - Is A Real Boy 59. 3OH!3 - Want 60. Millionaires - Cash Only
Haven’t heard nearly enough to rank lol. But I plan on hearing everything before the festival, so I’ll rank eventually I guess!
I don't even know who at least 10 of these bands are. 1. The Starting Line - Say It Like You Mean It 2. Underoath - They're Only Chasing Safety 3. My Chemical Romance - The Black Parade 4. Fall Out Boy 5. Jimmy Eat World - Bleed American 6. Pierce The Veil - Collide With The Sky 7. Dashboard Confessional - Dusk & Summer 8. New Found Glory - Sticks & Stones 9. Thursday - Full Collapse 10. Cartel - Chroma 11. Saosin - Self-Titled 12. Senses Fail - Still Searching 13. Coheed & Cambria - Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV 14. Mom Jeans - Best Buds 15. Motion City Soundtrack - Commit This To Memory 16. State Champs - The Finer Things 17. 3OH!3 - Want 18. Cobra Starship - !Viva La Cobra! 19. The Maine - Can't Stop, Won't Stop 20. Bayside - Self-Titled 21. The Wonder Years - The Greatest Generation 22. The All American Rejects - Self-Titled 23. Simple Plan - No Pads, No Helmet, Just Balls 24. We Are The In Crowd - Weird Kids 25. Millionaires - Cash Only 26. Story Of The Year - Page Avenue 27. Nada Surf - Let Go 28. Saves The Day - Stay What You Are 29. The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus - Don't You Fake It 30. The Used - In Love & Death 31. LS Dunes 32. Hey Monday - Hold On Tight 33. Hawthorne Heights - The Silence In Black & White 34. Emery - The Weak's End 35. A Day To Remember - Homesick 36. Neck Deep - Life's Not Out To Get You 37. Say Anything - Is A Real Boy 38. Movements - Feel Something 39. Silverstein - Discovering The Waterfront 40. Alesana - The Emptiness 41. Escape The Fate - This War Is Ours 42. The Devil Wears Prada - Plagues 43. We The Kings - Self Titled 44. The Forecast - In The Shadow Of Two Gunmen 45. Against The Current - Gravity 46. Chiodos - Alls Well That Ends Well 47. The Distillers - Coral Fang 48. Mayday Parade - A Lesson In Romantics 49. Daisy Grenade 50. Pretty Girls Make Graves - The New Romance 51. CARR 52. Four Year Strong - Enemy Of The World 53. August Burns Red - Constellations 54. Atreyu - The Curse 55. Tonight Alive - The Other Side 56. Armor For Sleep - What To Do When You Are Dead 57. Anberlin - Never Take Friendship Personal 58. Dance Gavin Dance - Mothership 59. Sleeping With Sirens - Let's Cheers To This 60. Basement - Colour Me In Kindness
yeah probably lol. I won’t play the full album of everything, some stuff is bad enough to get me to shut it off by the 2nd song lol
1. The Starting Line - Say It Like You Mean It 2. Coheed & Cambria - Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV 3. New Found Glory - Sticks & Stones 4. Jimmy Eat World - Bleed American 5. Dashboard Confessional - Dusk & Summer 6. The Used - In Love & Death 7. Armor For Sleep - What To Do When You Are Dead 8. Fall Out Boy 9. Say Anything - Is A Real Boy 10. My Chemical Romance - The Black Parade 11. Cartel - Chroma 12. Simple Plan - No Pads, No Helmet, Just Balls 13. Thursday - Full Collapse 14. Senses Fail - Still Searching 15. Story Of The Year - Page Avenue 16. Motion City Soundtrack - Commit This To Memory 17. The All American Rejects - Self-Titled 18. Underoath - They're Only Chasing Safety 19. Saves The Day - Stay What You Are 20. A Day To Remember - Homesick 21. Basement - Colour Me In Kindness 22. The Maine - Can't Stop, Won't Stop 23. Four Year Strong - Enemy Of The World 24. LS Dunes 25. Saosin - Self-Titled 26. Pierce The Veil - Collide With The Sky 27. Movements - Feel Something 28. The Distillers - Coral Fang 29. The Wonder Years - The Greatest Generation 30. Daisy Grenade 31. Silverstein - Discovering The Waterfront 32. Hawthorne Heights - The Silence In Black & White 33. Pretty Girls Make Graves - The New Romance 34. Nada Surf - Let Go 35. Mayday Parade - A Lesson In Romantics 36. Sleeping With Sirens - Let's Cheers To This 37. Chiodos - Alls Well That Ends Well 38. We Are The In Crowd - Weird Kids 39. Hey Monday - Hold On Tight 40. State Champs - The Finer Things 41. Anberlin - Never Take Friendship Personal 42. Neck Deep - Life's Not Out To Get You 43. Bayside - Self-Titled 44. The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus - Don't You Fake It 45. Tonight Alive - The Other Side 46. Against The Current - Gravity 47. Mom Jeans - Best Buds 48. Dance Gavin Dance - Mothership 49. The Forecast - In The Shadow Of Two Gunmen 50. Atreyu - The Curse 51. Cobra Starship - !Viva La Cobra! 52. We The Kings - Self Titled 53. Emery - The Weak's End 54. The Devil Wears Prada - Plagues 55. August Burns Red - Constellations 56. Alesana - The Emptiness 57. Escape The Fate - This War Is Ours 58. CARR 59. 3OH!3 - Want 60. Millionaires - Cash Only
1. Jimmy Eat World - Bleed American 2. The Starting Line - Say It Like You Mean It 3. Cartel - Chroma 4. New Found Glory - Sticks & Stones 5. Underoath - They're Only Chasing Safety 6. Armor For Sleep - What To Do When You Are Dead 7. State Champs - The Finer Things 8. The All American Rejects - Self-Titled 9. Fall Out Boy 10. The Used - In Love & Death 11. My Chemical Romance - The Black Parade 12. Tonight Alive - The Other Side 13. The Wonder Years - The Greatest Generation 14. Chiodos - Alls Well That Ends Well 15. Coheed & Cambria - Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV 16. Simple Plan - No Pads, No Helmet, Just Balls 17. Dashboard Confessional - Dusk & Summer 18. Senses Fail - Still Searching 19. The Distillers - Coral Fang 20. Thursday - Full Collapse 21. Emery - The Weak's End 22. Saosin - Self-Titled 23. Four Year Strong - Enemy Of The World 24. Bayside - Self-Titled 25. Mayday Parade - A Lesson In Romantics 26. LS Dunes 27. Hey Monday - Hold On Tight 28. The Maine - Can't Stop, Won't Stop 29. Motion City Soundtrack - Commit This To Memory 30. Silverstein - Discovering The Waterfront 31. Story Of The Year - Page Avenue 32. Say Anything - Is A Real Boy 33. We The Kings - Self Titled 34. Nada Surf - Let Go 35. Mom Jeans - Best Buds 36. The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus - Don't You Fake It 37. Against The Current - Gravity 38. Anberlin - Never Take Friendship Personal 39. Hawthorne Heights - The Silence In Black & White 40. Atreyu - The Curse 41. A Day To Remember - Homesick 42. Cobra Starship - !Viva La Cobra! 43. Movements - Feel Something 44. Basement - Colour Me In Kindness 45. The Forecast - In The Shadow Of Two Gunmen 46. We Are The In Crowd - Weird Kids 47. CARR 48. August Burns Red - Constellations 49. 3OH!3 - Want 50. Alesana - The Emptiness 51. Pretty Girls Make Graves - The New Romance 52. Daisy Grenade 53. Saves The Day - Stay What You Are 54. Neck Deep - Life's Not Out To Get You 55. The Devil Wears Prada - Plagues 56. Pierce The Veil - Collide With The Sky 57. Millionaires - Cash Only 58. Sleeping With Sirens - Let's Cheers To This 59. Dance Gavin Dance - Mothership 60. Escape The Fate - This War Is Ours
Everything after the first 18 would just be bonus for me. My top 3 are what would make me pull the trigger on attending. I’ve seen Sticks and Stones 3 times already.
My finger slipped a few times so it's not perfect, Cartel should be like 10 higher, but... 22 and below I don't really care much My Chemical Romance - The Black Parade Coheed & Cambria - Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV Jimmy Eat World - Bleed American The Starting Line - Say It Like You Mean It Motion City Soundtrack - Commit This To Memory Fall Out Boy Underoath - They're Only Chasing Safety The Used - In Love & Death Story Of The Year - Page Avenue Chiodos - Alls Well That Ends Well Say Anything - Is A Real Boy Saves The Day - Stay What You Are LS Dunes Thursday - Full Collapse Cartel - Chroma Anberlin - Never Take Friendship Personal Armor For Sleep - What To Do When You Are Dead The Wonder Years - The Greatest Generation Cobra Starship - !Viva La Cobra! New Found Glory - Sticks & Stones Simple Plan - No Pads, No Helmet, Just Balls Mayday Parade - A Lesson In Romantics Four Year Strong - Enemy Of The World Dashboard Confessional - Dusk & Summer Bayside - Self-Titled The Maine - Can't Stop, Won't Stop Hey Monday - Hold On Tight Saosin - Self-Titled The All American Rejects - Self-Titled Senses Fail - Still Searching The Forecast - In The Shadow Of Two Gunmen Dance Gavin Dance - Mothership We The Kings - Self Titled
#28 down I have no idea who they are, or I don’t like them. Haha 1. The Forecast - In The Shadow Of Two Gunmen 2. The Starting Line - Say It Like You Mean It 3. Armor For Sleep - What To Do When You Are Dead 4. Jimmy Eat World - Bleed American 5. Thursday - Full Collapse 6. The All American Rejects - Self-Titled 7. Four Year Strong - Enemy Of The World 8. Motion City Soundtrack - Commit This To Memory 9. The Wonder Years - The Greatest Generation 10. Underoath - They're Only Chasing Safety 11. Saves The Day - Stay What You Are 12. New Found Glory - Sticks & Stones 13. Say Anything - Is A Real Boy 14. Fall Out Boy 15. Daisy Grenade 16. Coheed & Cambria - Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV 17. The Used - In Love & Death 18. Story Of The Year - Page Avenue 19. Cartel - Chroma 20. Saosin - Self-Titled 21. Hawthorne Heights - The Silence In Black & White 22. Dashboard Confessional - Dusk & Summer 23. Cobra Starship - !Viva La Cobra! 24. Simple Plan - No Pads, No Helmet, Just Balls 25. Senses Fail - Still Searching 26. Hey Monday - Hold On Tight 27. 3OH!3 - Want 28. Tonight Alive - The Other Side 29. We Are The In Crowd - Weird Kids 30. Mayday Parade - A Lesson In Romantics 31. The Maine - Can't Stop, Won't Stop 32. Neck Deep - Life's Not Out To Get You 33. The Distillers - Coral Fang 34. Mom Jeans - Best Buds 35. Dance Gavin Dance - Mothership 36. A Day To Remember - Homesick 37. Movements - Feel Something 38. Basement - Colour Me In Kindness 39. We The Kings - Self Titled 40. State Champs - The Finer Things 41. Against The Current - Gravity 42. Anberlin - Never Take Friendship Personal 43. Pierce The Veil - Collide With The Sky 44. Nada Surf - Let Go 45. Silverstein - Discovering The Waterfront 46. LS Dunes 47. My Chemical Romance - The Black Parade 48. Pretty Girls Make Graves - The New Romance 49. Sleeping With Sirens - Let's Cheers To This 50. Emery - The Weak's End 51. Atreyu - The Curse 52. Bayside - Self-Titled 53. Alesana - The Emptiness 54. Chiodos - Alls Well That Ends Well 55. August Burns Red - Constellations 56. The Devil Wears Prada - Plagues 57. CARR 58. Escape The Fate - This War Is Ours 59. Millionaires - Cash Only 60. The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus - Don't You Fake It