Venom (Ruben Fleischer, October 5, 2018) Movie • Page 23

There's one scene where a character says "No! You don't eat policemen!" which got a huge laugh out of me and I wouldn't be surprised if the internet has a ball with that shit

 

Man reviewers HATE this huh lol

 

Marvel has created something unique, dynamtic. Fans want to see characters interact and really that's what brings the movie down. This would have been great if there references, not even a character from the MCU, but for future movies.

Still going to see it because Venoms characters are fascinating but will not expect much at all .

 

Anarchist Venom: Eat the Rich

I say this as a big fan of the MCU: I think this being standalone is actually a strength. After Infinity War, I'm ready for some fun on a smaller scale. A review I read said basically the same thing.

Like, for the people that this film doesn't work for, I hope they don't trick themselves into believing the lack of Spidey is why. Didn't help Batman v Superman. Heck, that's even been a problem with some MCU stuff (like Age of Ultron).

 

One reason I hope people don't read this film's reception wrong is my hope that a Silk film (which is one of the things they're developing) gets green lit.

She's another character where, at face value, the origin is fundamentally tied to Spider-Man. However, much like Venom, Silk's core characterization and motivation actually works better the less Spidey is involved. All you'd have to do is give Cindy Moon that totem angle w/ Ezekiel & Morlun (depending on how much of that territory is hinted at in Into the Spider-Verse).

If this film does well in a Suicide Squad kinda way, then between that and Crazy Rich Asians, a Silk film will probably be attractive to Sony. But, if the negative critical buzz and narrative make this underperform to Sony's expectations, I could totally see them learning the wrong lesson and abandoning the better concepts they've got brewing.

 

Canyou spoil it?

 

I’ll say this: It feels like a movie that either wasn’t thought out or got chopped up to Hell by Sony.

There are a few glaring continuity errors, a huge aversion to blood for a character that’s biting people’s heads off and zero character depth for anyone.

But I think Tom Hardy sells this nonsense. He’s 100% committed and seems to be having a great time.

I also think the “Little Shop” dynamic between Eddie and Venom was an interesting angle, even if it didn’t get explored as much as it should have. Like, there should be a scene in the movie where Eddie has a long conversation with Venom about how he operates, etc. For being a host to a symbiote, Eddie suprisingly doesn’t care to know much about Venom.

The one thing that’s I can appreciate is even though this is a total mess, it’s kind of an interesting one that the MCU would never allow. It’s too dark, profane and gross. Kevin Feige would have hosed it down with bleach. I like that with Sony being the last hold-out with Marvel, we can still get weird misfires like this.

 

I read too much of that article to realize what they were actually talking about. Then it hit me like a ton of bricks.

 

they're either talking about post credit scene with woody harrelson as non-symbiote carnage or they show a scene from into the spider-verse (i'm thinking this is what they are referring to)

 

Going alone after work because I could use some me time and stupid fun.

 

This will probably be a next weekday evening loner for me as well.

 

So yes, it is bad, but there’s some really cool and fun stuff in it too. Definitely not the worst nor as bad as some of Marvel and DC’s missteps. Loved the after credits scene.

 

My thoughts

 

So, the best part of this was easily the second post-credit scene. This was laughably bad at parts

 

Whoops, didn’t realize there was a second one. What was that one?

 

This movie is terrible in the best way possible. Had a blast with it. Whole theater was cracking up both at Venom’s jokes and how goofy some scenes were.

 

Didn't think I'd get to see this 'til the weekend, but guess I'm going...now. Neat. So ready for this. (And so ready for my brother to hate it, lol.)

 

It's a five minute clip from Into The Spider-Verse lol

 

Thought this was surprisingly not terrible. The first act is dull and third act gets really generic but the second act was a lot of fun!

 

I enjoyed this quite a bit. Tom was fantastic. Lots of generic superhero movie stuff holds it back but it’s nowhere near as bad as the zeitgeist is making it out to be.

 

It’s not a terrible spectacle or anything, and it’s not like Suicide Squad or BvS where the main flaws are weird editing choices or studio intervention. There’s no instantly quotable “Bat credit card” or Catwoman basketball scene you can point and laugh at except for maybe Venom-Annie making out with Eddie, which i thought was hysterical. It’s just super weird. Venom says a lot of weird/goofy shit to Eddie. Most of the acting is cardboard except for Tom Hardy who’s acting his ass off (he really sold it, honestly). Eddie doesn’t really have much of a constitution so I was never really rooting for or against him, there’s no moral dilemma at stake. It feels like no one has learned any lessons when the movie ends. The post-credits scene is exactly what you think it is. It does feel like a movie from a decade ago, like a pre-dark knight comic book movie that has no ambition outside of being entertaining for 2 hours.

All that said it’s super fun to watch. I was laughing throughout the whole thing and Tom Hardy worked his ass off to deliver a fun performance. Probably gonna see it again next week with a friend.

 

I think the pacing is what really killed the movie for me. It didn't feel like the movie really started until the halfway point, and there was nowhere near enough of a satisfying payoff to make it worth it. I also did not care about any character in this movie that wasn't played by Tom Hardy, who was doing everything he could to make this script presentable and carry this whole movie. The Eddie/Venom dynamic was fairly enjoyable and the action scene that was shown in the trailers (the whole apartment fight/car chase) was pretty fun. The final fight, however, was not. Two huge, dark monsters that can basically turn into liquids fighting at night time with quick cuts does not make an enjoyable final action sequence for me.

 

Also I thought the visual effects were great (except for one or two scenes if I’m being nit picky) and I loved loved loved how Venom looked, both his design which was super comic-booky and the way he was gooey/shiny

 

Sounds like Transformers.