Venom: Let There Be Carnage (Andy Serkis; October 1, 2021…?) Movie • Page 12

Venom’s swinging his hips because he’s excited to hear my take on his film, right.

 

Pile of yeses, pile of duhs.

 

My god this part had me so fuckin giddy

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/m...age-mid-credits-scene-andy-serkis-1235024005/

With a Spider-Man confrontation being planned early on I wouldn’t doubt that Hardy is in NWH. This might have played a part in the Disney/Sony drama during 2019.

 

time to die. i mean us. we are going to die.

 

this was the buddy cop movie that I needed

 

Without knowing how they intended to get Spider-Man involved, I think this really means nothing. In fact, maybe that's why they decided not to do it, because they couldn't make it work storywise.

Clearly a Venom vs. Spidey confrontation is happening at some point; I just really hate the idea that it has to happen in No Way Home. I think the smart thing to do would be to have it be its own thing.

 

I don’t think a Spider-Man/Venom confrontation will happen in NWH. Too many other things at happening. Venom will probably be in an end credit scene or a small cameo with a full meeting between the two characters in either Spider-Man 4 or Venom 3 (taking place in the MCU). Which then will ask the question; will Feige help produce Venom 3?

 

I meant that Sony had planed for Hardy to meet Holland since before Serkis was involved. That would bring the decision to around the same time that Disney and Sony had their little fallout.

I don’t imagine that Feige would have been thrilled when he learned that Sony wanted to merge their universe with his. Perhaps the deal to keep Spidey in the MCU required Disney being okay with Sony’s other films connecting to the MCU.

 

Maybe. It's hard to tell.

I tracked down this article from 2017, back when Homecoming came out and Sony was working on the first Venom movie.

Marvel’s Kevin Feige is the internet’s latest sad boy thanks to Spider-Man

Basically Amy Pascal had fucked up and said that Tom Holland Spider-Man being able to appear in movies like Venom meant that the movies were part of the MCU, and Feige looked terrified.

Then in a follow-up interview not long after, Pascal corrected herself and said that Sony's movies were "MCU-adjacent", which Feige confirmed was a more accurate answer.

So I guess the issue wasn't about allowing Holland to appear in Sony's movies, so much as whether that meant that those movies were part of the MCU.

I think the original terms were something like "Spider-Man can appear in Sony movies but can't mention the MCU and Spider-Man can appear in the MCU but can't mention Sony movies" or something along those lines.

Hard to know though, cause there never was a real litmus test. I guess now we'll never know.

 

I really would like a book to come out that details all the behind the scenes when it comes to orchestrating these films.

 

Way better than the first one in that this was a competently made movie with a good director and a single unified creative voice, as opposed to the fractured incoherently ugly mess that the first one was. Final action set piece was very good. And it was even intentionally funny this time! Big improvement.

Still felt rushed, especially the first half hour. Needed another 10-15 minutes.

Also loving Venom joining the MCU just for all the people it’s definitely going to piss off.

 

Yeah this moved so fast at some parts, especially the beginning. My main/only gripe

 

So fucking ridiculous lol

 

The tease of Toxin at the end was pretty cool too, Al Capone will be a good villain in the third movie

 

I gotta look up toxin. I read all these previews teasing knull

 

Super fun movie. Mid-credits scene has me intrigued. Bring it on

 

This is so fucking good

 

is that what that was? i was wondering

 

my wife said i do a good venom voice, time to make a voice acting reel

 

Well, it should be. He has the same name as Toxin in the comics and is also a cop.

 

When are we getting Scream though?

 

I think the sequel will be inspired by a mix of the 90s “Planet of the Symbiotes” and the recent King in Black (& the rest of the Cates/Stegman run), but reinvented into something more in line with this series’ characters and tone. So, the villain will be some cosmic threat, maybe based loosely on Knull, and then Toxin will be one of the servants. Maybe another servant will be us finally getting Scream.

 

So when Hardy is sent back to the Venom-verse, a piece of the symbiote is definitely getting left behind in the MCU, right?

 

That Mrs. Chen scene was great.