I’m not saying it’s okay - he’s obviously a dude who thinks carrying a gun is okay and I don’t agree with that. But I dunno why we are also lumping vein in with the other band member who pulled out the piece - agreed there are bad vibes and a messy situation but I’m not gonna deem one side bad until more comes out (if it does)
On the FSU stuff, Jersey has some of the worst fucking people for hardcore. Pure scum and the reason I fucking hate that scene. One of my friends got jumped because a guy stomped his glasses in a pit and asked why the guy did it. A guy was straight up murdered for wearing a Pantera shirt.
"lol" maybe that video was just the beginning of the fight? if that's all it was, then this is getting blown hugely out of proportion.
My thoughts exactly. Was that a kick? I couldn't see because of all the black hoodies being worn like some heist was about to take place.
even if it’s tame from a distance, it’s been alleged they punched a girl and you can clearly hear a girl yelling? man. this is my favorite heavy album in a long time. i really wanted to be excited about this release. the amount of benefits of the doubt given here today is incredibly odd.
Hmmmm seems there is still some confusion because that one account said Vein were the ones whom a gun was pulled on?
Yeah, spare me a 12-second video. Sounds like there was way more going on than could be captured in such a short amount of time from a distance
no, it pretty unanimously seems to be the case that it was someone in Momentum who pulled the gun. There's that one comment at the top of this page saying that Vein were threatened with a gun by venue management but that's the only instance I've read of that so it could obviously be bullshit too There's probably going to be no statement and we'll likely never know what actually happened because the people who were there have a vested interest in telling the story in a way that benefits one party over the other and the people who weren't there, weren't there
the only thing i’ve seen about any of the band members having a gun pulled on them is that a member of the community was bluffing/hand in the pocket stuff. nothing about an actual gun pulled first. quit bringing guns to shows regardless what the fuck!!!