Interesting, I wonder what they'd realistically be able to analyze from his body after 16 years; I would think it'd be pretty decomposed by now
New episodes are out. halfway through the first episode and it appears this story happened in a world without surveillance cameras like the majority of volume 1 lol
Just discovered that I watched episodes 5 & 6 today, not 1 & 2 (“lady in the lake” and “stolen kids”). Not sure why Netflix fired up episode 5 to start with.
Just watched the Lester Eubank episode (episode 3). WHAT THE FUCK WAS GOING ON BACK THEN? LIKE WHY THE FUCK WAS THAT A DEATH ROW PROGRAM?????
On one hand I get and like the idea of trying to keep prisoners feeling like a “normal”, free person and if they are good in the system granting them privileges, BUT: 1) Eubanks was never getting out. He was serving a life sentence so... it kind of doesn’t matter if he keeps “public” personal skills. 2) they were let out ON THEIR OWN with NO MONITORING???? When I first read the sentence / description of the episode I thought it would be that he ran away from the officers with him, not that they dropped all the prisoners off at the fucking mall and said, “we’ll pick you up at 5!” like mom dropping off middle schoolers. just pure craziness. They talk about how he had a bunch of visits more than usual the 2-3 months before the mall trip, but never mentioned what those people said. Did they not investigate those people?? I get it was the 70’s where’s it’s damn near impossible to track someone but one of those visitors would have spilled something about where he was going.
Yep I totally understand the idea of “rewarding” good behavior to try and maintain some level of peace and order in the prison, BUT LETTING THEM GO TO A MALL UNSUPERVISED?? What the hell. They gave him TWO hours in the mall alone? I was appalled when I heard they had a “meeting spot” to meet back at? What the hell is that? Absolutely absurd!
It really is absurd. Like if I were in that situation facing a life sentence of course I’d try to escape. What could they do, add time to my life sentence?
the lack of logic is astounding lol ok, I’m in prison for 5 years for selling dope. Of course I’m gonna be on my best behavior and report back in two hours. life sentence for MURDERING A CHILD? Why follow the rules. And why the fuck bring a child murderer to a mall unsupervised???? During the holiday season of all times???? Honestly, him escaping was like, the least awful thing that could have happened. Is he evil for what he did and especially what he did after he shot that girl? Absolutely. But my god he could have done so many worse things than just escape a mall. Everyone who ok’d that plan should be damn lucky he didn’t murder or attack anyone before leaving the mall.
What do you mean? They showed a bunch of surveillance footage of him. Also, that episode kind of sucked. Seems pretty obvious to me he was probably having a manic episode, climbed into that dumpster, got dumped into the truck and crushed, resulting in all his injuries. Yet everyone they talk to seems to think that's not possible.
Yeah I didn't think there wasn't anything too mysterious with his death. As for the original poster, it's possible they're referring to a different episode. For some reason Netflix loads up the 4th episode when you go to start the season.
Yep, what @manoverboard365 said - loaded ep 4 to start. Luckily for a show such as this the order doesn’t matter but was certainly confused as shit when after two episodes it went to playing an episode I had already seen in the first volume!
the only real weird thing is why he wasn’t robbed. Like they say in the episode, normal mugging don’t result in people in landfills with their cash in them and fancy rings. I could see the ring being left on and not pawned because that may be easy to track (but who knows if a random mugging turned murderer thinks of that), but it is odd where his body was found vs where it was picked up by the garbage truck. Certainly murdered! But who and why
I wouldn’t rule out a gang murder. Them being aware enough to dump the body 12 miles away is questionable, but the area of Wilmington he was last seen walking to is...not a great area.
Seriously. Definitely not buying that it was a suicide Cutting tags out of clothes isn't that weird though, thought it was odd to make such a big deal of it. Some people don't like the itchiness of it heh
If the employee knocked on the door and then heard the gunshot, I think it was probably a suicide. I just don’t see any murderer dumb enough to shoot her after someone just knocked on the door and then have to walk out of the room. Now who she was and why she was there I have no clue
the thing that trips me up is how she was holding the gun and the lack of blood like the detectives say. I know nothing about guns but they made it seem pretty clear cut that if she pulled the trigger, she’d have blood on her hands / gun, etc. and that she wouldn’t be able to hold the gun the way she was. but, how did the killer get out of the room and manage to lock the door with the chain thing (I think they said that was on or something manual in the room) if it was a murder? Also weird that they never looked at the security tapes from when she checked in to see who was with her? And did they not interview the person who let her get the room with no ID or money or credit card on file?
Yeah the gun stuff gives me pause but I just wasn’t totally convinced it was impossible. Like I can imagine if this went to court the state putting on expert explaining how the the gun’s recoil wasn’t enough to break her grip and why there wasn’t a lot of blood for that wound. Ultimately I just can’t wrap my head around how someone else could have been in the room but not have been seen or noticed. Maybe they did just get extremely lucky and walked out during that 15 minute window when nobody was monitoring the room, which was another thing that was mind numbingly dumb by the security staff.
I enjoyed the Tsunami Spirits episode, really poignant and beautiful. Didn't feel like an unsolved mystery though.