Rachel, Monica, and Ross all have a lot more things to dislike about them than Phoebe does, but for some reason I still feel like she's the worst one
ehh I like her. she's a stoner whose friends treat her like an idiot so she fucks with them. she had a weird upbringing too
Compare them to their HIMYM counterparts Ross/Ted Monica/Lily Chandler/Marshall Joey/Barney Rachel/Robin Phoebe = Wild Card Ross is an asshole but Ted is a whiny bitch. Monica and Lily are both equally obnoxious. Chandler is also an asshole but he's my favorite, while I feel that Marshall is the only truly likable character in either show (as in, I'd hang out with that guy in real life, probably). Joey and Barney are both womanizers, but Joey is a moron while Barney seems to be classier. And Robin and Rachel are the girls that everyone falls in love with. I'll take Rachel's airhead-edness over Robin's Canadian schtick. And Phoebe is just Phoebe.
They all have annoying character flaws about them but the difference with Phoebe is it's like she is entirely self aware and pushes her absurdity on purpose lol
A lot of my gripes with HIMYM have to do with the fact that the mother stole my heart just in the small amount of airtime she got and then BOOM she's dead and now Ted's gonna get back with Robin who we've watched season after season try to have a relationship and it fails. Like fuck those writers, we deserved better for being fans for almost a goddamn decade.
HIMYM is so stupid on a fundamental level because he's telling his like adult story to his young children. Talking about all the women he's fucked and what not before he got their mom. That show is completely tone deaf
I finished it last night. Sometimes it's cringey but it reaches some really high highs. I really enjoyed it and wish there was more of it.