Unpopular Entertainment Opinions • Page 88

Damn you’re right, how could I forget about them

 

Giving your money to Cats ironically is worse than going in earnest

 

Ironically liking anything is stupid & should be frowned upon.

Sincerely liking something that you know isn't good, but is still sincerely enjoyable to you, is dope.

 

Liking anything is overrated, who’s with me

 

Nah, hating things is overrated. Liking things is dope as fuck. Sincerity rules.

 

Sincerity is scary

 

You're voting with your wallet. Every dollar you give to Cats increases the likelihood that Tom Hooper gets to make another movie. It feels like an echo of the dark age of endless Sharknado sequels.

 

I sincerely like many things ironically. There are things I like that are bad and things I like *because* they are bad. There’s nothing stupid about it and it shouldn’t be frowned upon

 

I can’t get into watching bad things for enjoyment. I have friends who LOVE watching terrible movies (birdemic, trolls 2, etc) that shit is just boring.

 

Troll 2 is a gift, I won’t stand for slander.

 

My brother loves watching shitty low budget sci-fi movies. Stuff I’ve never heard of. He legitimately enjoys it though.

 

I’ve been watching the Star Wars prequels this past week and the absolutely horrible production of them *is* genuinely hilarious. It’s entertaining but in a way completely unintended by the creator.

 

The trailer was bad. The reviews were bad. Tom Hooper is bad. It's like drinking spoiled milk on purpose.

 

is laughing at bad tv/movies the same as watching “ironically”

 

it depends, like I think most people realize that there was no irony to Ed Wood and Tommy Wiseau and are appreciating their dedication to weird shit that's for no one else besides them

 

What does it mean to watch and enjoy something ironically if not “enjoying something for its unintended badness”

 

Like there’s a definite distinction between bad movies that are bad in an incredibly boring and uninteresting way, and movies that are bad in an engrossing way. And with the latter it’s not a matter of liking the movie *despite* its badness, and I don’t see any reason why embracing them as such is stupid or should be frowned upon.

 

Yeah, the MST3K crew has always talked about the fact that they genuinely love most of the terrible movies they riff because you can see that there is some core heart or joy to them that was held back by budget or talent or a million other factors. Some of course don’t fit that and are pretty painful, but it’s that fondness for weird choices that makes them easy to root for and try to find the enjoyment in. Plus some truly do go beyond general incompetence and round the corner to surreal brilliance and insanity.

It’s a very different beast when you’re talking about a soulless corporate movie that cost hundreds of millions of dollars and most likely kept something else from getting funded in the process.

 

I dunno, I don't wanna split hairs on where sincerely enjoying campy & kitschy art ends, & where cynical irony begins. All I know is, watching things to make fun of 'em is a super tedious & lame genre of entertainment that I'm happy to ridicule as such.

Anyways, I haven't seen Cats yet, but I genuinely wish I had seen that instead of The Rise of Skywalker the other day, & it's not out of irony.

 

It should be noted that I was specifically referring to paying to see Cats. If you torrent a bad movie it is less egregious.

 

Audacious bad art that feels like a passion project of sorts tends to inspire creativity in me as much as genuinely great art. There's just something inspiring to me about someone having an idea & getting to see it through, whether the final outcome is To the Wonder or Yoga Hosers.

This is even more true in the world of comics, where anyone can create anything w/out any resources other than a pen & paper, or access to a passable computer.

 

I am absolutely paying to see Cats and I'm going to enjoy the fuck out of it

 

I hope your students find out.

 

I’m definitely gonna torrent Cats eventually, but yeah please don’t pay to see it lol

 

I will come back from break with my full review. I saw it earlier this year as a live show and it was one of the more baffling, entertaining things I have seen in a long time