I haven’t seen it since theaters and have it the lowest of his post-Hard Eight run. I’d like to read the book before a repeat viewing, Pynchon is a fav
so was Orson Welles when he released Citizen Kane and Carly Rae Jepsen when she released Call Me Maybe
I do agree with this overall take (most of the dudes I knew that joined the Marines growing up were obsessed with Full Metal Jacket), but I just don't think this should be a reason not to enjoy a film. I fucking love Top Gun: Maverick and that shit was funded and proofread by the DoD. You can acknowledge media is propagandistic while still appreciating well made propaganda vs poorly made propaganda
Idk I watched Gomer Pyle blow his brains out on the bathroom wall and it made me think joining the military was awesome
Also I think there is a big difference between something that is more fly on the wall documentary style war films like Black Hawk Down or The Outpost (what I am also assuming Warfare will be) that just try to recreate a battle with a light actual plot or characterization, and a "Shoot and Cry" style modern war film like an American Sniper or Lone Survivor or The Hurt Locker that have something explicit to say.
I can’t really think of any American war movies that aren’t propaganda. Granted I don’t watch a lot of them. But if you’re genuinely trying to show the realities of war and the military I feel like you’d be better off making a movie about what happens to veterans when they get home. America in particular chews up and spits people out and spends more energy not helping them in the aftermath than they would if they just gave people the help they needed and deserved
The war film debate comes up a lot and it ultimately comes down to the fact that people are captivated by images to the point where they read into it what they want. People want to be Scarface because they see the glitz and glamor and ignore that he falls down into a pool of his own blood. Wall Street was hugely influential with yuppies even though the film was an indictment of capital. Lonely men were drawn to Tyler Durden's ideology even though the film tries to say that escape is meaningless. Everyone wants to be friends with the Goodfellas gang. When it comes to war the idea of heroism and bravery is so entrenched in a nations' jingoism that you can't just limit the conversation to film. People think they won't take that wrong step or fall into that trap or whatever it is. It's a way to glory from people who need to take a breath before getting off the couch.
I love European war films. Das Boot, Come and See, Stalingrad (1993), and All Quiet on the Western Front cannot be mistaken as being pro-war by anyone no matter no matter how hard you tried.