I do remember the leak sounding more raw, maybe before it went through a mixing/mastering stage. I also remember my friends saying that Spencer was trying to sound like how Dallas sounded in Maylene, haha.
I remember it being like 4 to 6 months early and I think you’re right that maybe it wasn’t partially demos but just shitty quality haha The KaZaa days were wild - I remember 2/3 of Finch’s Say Hello To Sunshine also leaked like six months prior and half of them were for sure demos. Wild stuff.
DTGL is my favorite under oath album by a long shot. I still have my CD kicking around, with no way of playing it. Unless my PS5 can play CDs? Haha
This album shifted my perspective on my religious beliefs at a critical age, and I'm grateful it came into my life when it did. I remember the interviews, the constant MTV airplay, grabbing the leak months before release, etc... what a time to be a fan of this band and genre.
I think I was 12 when DTGL came out and I was pretty much instantly blown away by it. I had already played TOCS to death by that point
I think it’s the unmastered version of the album. I have a copy of it on my external hard drive. Came across it a few years after having the finished version.
I already saw the TOCSxDTGL tour years back and I’ll like go to this 20 year tour next year. If timeline lines up, seems like we’d have new oath in 2027 after that.
i remember not getting to see em at warped in 06 because of fat mike and other shenanigans lol 2006 was my senior year of HS and that summer was a blast, great times
I want a lost and disambiguation tour. bonus points if daniel does the set for disambiguation. Tim said a while back he deserves to do those songs if they ever run it back.
I can't remember if it was this thread or one of the album threads but I found my Disambiguation album poster and the shirt I got at the Illuminatour when I was cleaning out my garage recently. Needless to say, the poster went up instantly and the shirt is good as new after a few washes
We at least deserve an observatory stream of disambiguation. Do it in a garage without effects idc. But between not delivering on it during Covid and the fan sets on the last tour having a 0% chance of any disambig reputation, we are starved for catch myself catching myself.
I want to hear them rip Vacant Mouth, hell even trade off some the cleans with Aaron so Spencer can catch a break. That one seems ridiculously difficult to pull off and I don't know how he did it during the Disambiguation tour, even more as a set opener.
I love him so much as a drummer. He killed it during his time with Norma Jean, was great on Disambiguation, then went over to ETID and killed it with them. Incredibly talented dude.
Really dug this chat. Tim is the heart and soul of this band and has stayed grounded throughout the whole thing. Met him a couple of years ago and he was the most regular ass dude.It wasn’t at a show and we didn’t talk about music at all. It’s really interesting how different aaron acts depending on who he’s talking to. that interview from australia with aaron and spencer was ROUGH to listen to.
Also seems like they all have kinda grown out of the metalcore scene. Most likely is the case for a lot of the bands in this scene that started out as early as they did. I remember talking to Aaron and he says he NEVER listens to any new metalcore or anything from the scene and made me sad. Seems like if there was passion around it, we'd get something even greater. Would be cool if they did an EP of songs under a different moniker that they are really truly passionate about. They were alluding to some of that in the Locus Ultra teased posts on Insta early on.
i haven't watched any of these podcasts, but i've seen Tim in various videos on IG recently wearing a Star of David necklace. no clue whether or not he's converted to Judaism, but idk if anyone else noticed that
I thought Chris did an interview with a Christian publication recently about being the only religious guy left in.
I don’t think it’s too uncommon for bands to not be overly involved, or even tangentially, in the scene they write for. I like to think it keeps them writing creatively. But on the flip side it does make me wonder how much of the writing in those situations is just inertia/going through the motions and how much of it feels like a chore (and whether they’d rather write something else). Hard to think like that when they still write so creatively and seemingly passionately but ya can’t help but wonder.
That'd be such a fascinating question to ask them, and other acts in general. It's not a topic I ever see brought up in interviews.