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Underoath - The Place After This One (March 28, 2025) Album • Page 25

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by Crisp X, Dec 5, 2024.

  1. ChampsMusic

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    I really wish I wasnt “that guy” but I truly wish Cannibal stayed the way it was on the demo.
     
  2. Michael Belt

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    enlighten us
     
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  3. ChampsMusic

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    Apologies on my ramblings, not on my best essay writing game.

    I was able to get in a full 3 listens to this album. To start out, I just want to say how not cohesive this album is as a whole but mhow well the original singles flow on this album. I was in the camp that felt like the singles were pretty polarizing, but hearing them in this album context works really well. Thematically, this album pushes what Voyeurist does and does hit some pretty great highs, but falls into the same cubbies that these post reunion albums have been. Definitely a step up from Erase Me, but not jaw-dropping reinvention of the genre that I feel like we heard from people in the scene that were hyping up new Underoath.

    This album also flies by in a flash. I can’t remember the total runtime, but it was right around the 40 min mark. The fast songs and heavier elements make this album fly by so quickly (not in a bad way). Th urgency and heavy aspects are definitely present here and definitely goose-bump inducing at certain points.

    While the whole album is brohesive, I feel like the a couple of songs are just “there”. There’s no major defining aspects or lasting effect on some of them which is disappointing considering we have similar moments on Erase Me and Voyeurist. However, the highs on this album really scratch the itch and make you reach for the “replay button”.

    Generation No Surrender is a great way to start this album off. I had originally not liked the call-back lyrics and repeated chorus, but the verses go so so hard and I helps kick this album off in a high gear.

    Devil and Loss both capture some amazing hooks and elements that separate Oath from a ton of other bands in the genre.

    Vultures and Spinning in Place are a couple of songs that I feel like don’t have a lasting effect for me. They have some good moments, but after listening, they aren’t repeating in my head and I’m not dying to go back and listen to them.

    Outsider works well as an album closer, but isn’t a mind-blowing rollercoaster in the way that Pneumonia was as a bookend for Voyeurist. Not saying that all Oath albums need to end with a certain crescendo, but definitely is a different way to end it. Outsider does something great though with these soaring instrumentals and playing off of Aaron and Spencer’s airy singing.

    Apologies on my ramblings, not on my best essay writing game.

    I was able to get in a full 3 listens to this album. To start out, I just want to say how not cohesive this album is as a whole but mhow well the original singles flow on this album. I was in the camp that felt like the singles were pretty polarizing, but hearing them in this album context works really well. Thematically, this album pushes what Voyeurist does and does hit some pretty great highs, but falls into the same cubbies that these post reunion albums have been. Definitely a step up from Erase Me, but not jaw-dropping reinvention of the genre that I feel like we heard from people in the scene that were hyping up new Underoath.

    This album also flies by in a flash. I can’t remember the total runtime, but it was right around the 40 min mark. The fast songs and heavier elements make this album fly by so quickly (not in a bad way). Th urgency and heavy aspects are definitely present here and definitely goose-bump inducing at certain points.

    While the whole album is brohesive, I feel like the a couple of songs are just “there”. There’s no major defining aspects or lasting effect on some of them which is disappointing considering we have similar moments on Erase Me and Voyeurist. However, the highs on this album really scratch the itch and make you reach for the “replay button”.

    Generation No Surrender is a great way to start this album off. I had originally not liked the call-back lyrics and repeated chorus, but the verses go so so hard and I helps kick this album off in a high gear.

    Devil and Loss both capture some amazing hooks and elements that separate Oath from a ton of other bands in the genre.

    Vultures and Spinning in Place are a couple of songs that I feel like don’t have a lasting effect for me. They have some good moments, but after listening, they aren’t repeating in my head and I’m not dying to go back and listen to them.

    Outsider works well as an album closer, but isn’t a mind-blowing rollercoaster in the way that Pneumonia was as a bookend for Voyeurist. Not saying that all Oath albums need to end with a certain crescendo, but definitely is a different way to end it. Outsider does something great though with these soaring instrumentals and playing off of Aaron and Spencer’s airy singi
     
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  4. ChampsMusic

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    I just word vomited what I had^
     
  5. justin.

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    Just finished my first listen. This feels like it an album that Underoath would have made after LITSOS if Aaron never left
     
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  6. ChampsMusic

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    I’m sorry fam. I did my best. This is my favorite band but this output is not the best? I love them. I will forever love Underoath. It’s just the way it d. Is.
     
  7. justin.

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    It’s a big step up from Erase Me and Vouyerist, imo
     
  8. ChampsMusic

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    It’s a step from Erase Ne and Voyerist while still on the same page sadly. No outer worldly definiining life
     
  9. justin.

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    LITSOS can only be made once, and that’s ok
     
  10. dathvada

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    I totally agree. HUGE improvement in songwriting and cohesion here. It feels authentic, inspired, and full of urgency in a way that they haven't sounded in nearly 15 years in my opinion.
     
  11. Bane

    The spiciest meme

    On first listen, I like it more than Erase Me but not sure if I'd say I like it more than Voyeurist. It feels clunkier in spots that I felt that Voyeurist didn't. Also Outsider is pretty but has nothing on Pneumonia imo. However the album certainly isn't a disaster, not that I thought it would be but woof yea still not crazy on the Generation No Surrender and Survivor's Guilt choruses.
     
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  12. disambigujason Mar 27, 2025
    (Last edited: Mar 27, 2025)
    disambigujason

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    Just finished my first listen too and I am so pleasantly surprised. To me it sounds like they really went all in on this maximalist house of protection or silence 156 sound and I think they knocked it out of the park, I think it shows they really (still) are the most capable band in metalcore.

    I like the generation chorus much better in the recording than how it sounded live - it sounds darker and more sinister here which brings the song together. I feel like I recognize Tim’s guitar work as Tim’s far more than on erase me and probably even moreso than voyeurist (though I don’t love the production), and it feels higher in the mix. The second half of the album is where it really hits its stride for me, the first half is a bit more variable. I don’t care for the repetitive choruses as much as I expected to, and there are times it feels like they’re forcing some melodies and transitions, but the back half blew me away. Outsider is beautiful and elegant in a way we haven’t heard Underoath play before, I think it smashes pneumonia and I gave up.

    idk where this’ll sit in my rankings, it’s not my favorite style of metalcore, but I think it’s super cohesive, catchy af in a lot of places, and really creative, albeit not totally original given the aforementioned comparisons. Again, I have my qualms, some of the UO warts keep showing up, but I’m a happy camper. 2/2 since erase me.

    on a separate note the invent animate EP is wildly good. Great day for heavy music.
     
  13. Same, it sounded off back then especially the drums. I have zero issue with it now.
     
  14. Crisp X Mar 27, 2025
    (Last edited: Mar 28, 2025)
    I was thinking about this and noticed that, while they made a conscious effort on Voyeurist to bring back what they’d call “moments” (iirc), like those parts in their songs where something just goes somewhere you didn’t expect and take the song to new heights or let them breath, I don’t really get that this time. Pretty much everything is straightforward structurally and goes full blast, which isn’t a bad thing per say, but it’s something I noticed and may make this appear as formulaic at times in comparison. It’s kinda an in your face album as well.

    edit: Sorry but brohesive makes me lol
     
  15. Yeah it’s wild that back when the first singles dropped, I was so ready to hate on the production but the sound you highlighted is now my favorite part about the whole thing and what makes this stand out from the rest of their discography.

    I don’t remember who is the Nashville guy they brought in as a producer but they really found someone that helped them sound suffocatingly heavy at the right spots and also quite brighter than I’d expect during the poppy parts. I loved hearing on a recent interview that it was a random guy Aaron met during his other day job as a songwriter in Nashville, and especially that he came in as an Underoath superfan.

    Whether you love it or hate it, it makes for an interesting combo. Having a younger and fresher perspective during the making and everything… so I can see how the gang left thinking this was their best album in a long time. They must’ve felt rejuvenated.
     
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  16. onionbubs

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    sans survivors guilt, its generation no surrender and loss where the hooks feel the most forced to me, both would be much much better songs without them as just lean rippers. honestly would prefer shame too if it were the same, yet to settle into the sharp disconnect between how much teeth the verses bear juxtaposed against how sweet a tooth one needs for its chorus

    that said spinning in place is a pretty cool take on this maximalist popcore sound and its got a lot of fun surprising moments in it
     
  17. mattylikesfilms Mar 27, 2025
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    This is such a wild take to me. I know it’s all subjective but I can’t hear how any of this would be a natural progression from LITSOS. I wish I could cause that record is stellar and their best to date.
     
  18. mattylikesfilms

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    Gave the album a proper listen and this is the first Underoath album that I felt mostly nothing listening to aside from a few tracks. I had a better experience with Erase Me when that came out and I still love Voyuerist.

    This record sounds tailor made for Octane SiriusXM with a few cool moments here and there but that’s pretty much it for me sadly. What a huge disappointment.
     
  19. jesseisabigdeal

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    i didn't hate spinning in place. the most i've liked from them since aaron came back.
     
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  20. bmir14

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    Listened once. Not really sure what my opinion is yet. But Devil is without question my favorite song they've released post hiatus. What a jam.
     
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  21. AlwaysEvolving21

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    This album rips so hard! It’s like Erase Me on redbull and I’m here for it.
     
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  22. Micah511 Mar 28, 2025
    (Last edited: Mar 28, 2025)
    Micah511

    We reach for the longest shadow

    This is cool. I tried hard to like Erase Me, and it never worked out, and I felt better about Voyeurist but it still didn't stick in my rotation for much longer than a few weeks after it came out. My first impression is this keeps up the aggression they found again on Voyeurist, then put it through an accessible Erase Me filter. I already like it better than Erase Me, and the accessibility might make me like it more than Voyeurist.

    Also the singles didn't stick for me but they work better as a whole.

    EDIT: lol Shame has the exact same melody as Bilmuri's Boutta Cashew

    EDIT 2: Vultures sounds... a little too much like Survivor's Guilt. Oh but the Troy feature is so sick.
     
  23. HeckYeahMatt

    Not Big Chungus

    Album rips
     
  24. kielhauck

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    Holy shit the album is so much fun lol

    Do not get the Erase Me comparisons at all ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  25. justin.

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    ‘And Then There Was Nothing’ might be my favorite post-reunion song