I don't know that he means to get rid of all the breakdowns now that I watch it a second time. Seems like context is important as we don't know what was said before or after that. I didn't know the band had never really worked with a producer in that capacity though. Makes it seem like these songs will be a lot more polished... for better or for worse.
Haha yea that pretty much means nothing but I sort of thought it would be something people in this thread would get worked up over
Yeah the main thing that's interesting to me is how the band had never done pre-production or worked that extensively with a producer before. Definitely seems like they went for a different approach.
Didnt in the beginning of one of their studio videos for either DTGL or LITSOS they said they were going to demo out/pre pro the entire album?
Define the great line but it was one day and they just played the entire record live. Which is very different than 2-3 weeks of preproduction
Yeah I went back and found that clip. Interesting they never did pre pro before. Matt Squire can be a pretty pop heavy producer. Really interested to see how things played out. Wish these segments were way longer. I could use a 30 minute video on the studio process. Bands don't do that much anymore these days.
I think these updates are separate clips from the documentary. The full documentary releasing when the album drops even has its own name "Get Over It". From my order: Underoath - Get Over It (Making Of Erase Me) Documentary
when i heard the breakdowns line, i assumed it was out of context since it'd be a very weird marketing strategy for a heavy band to tell fans they're not getting what they want...
yea it's interesting because this is the first heavy band Squire has produced for, he's more known for pop punk and such. That being said, he's done quite a few great albums for those roots.
So I ask this from a place of curiosity and complete ignorance as to what happens in most steps of the production process, but he seems baffled they hadn’t done pre-pro before, as if their previous products haven’t been good and that that explains why, so does a producer in that situation not feel weird telling this successful band they’ve gotta do something totally differently now? Or did they likely tell him exactly what they want and he’s like well this is the path we gotta take to that? That clip feels like I’m watching shark tank or something. It sounds like they already had a lot of work done and now he’s stepping in to change a lot? To be clear, I’m not accusing him of mainstream-ing the band or anything like, just genuinely want a bit more context.
I think it’s the opposite. He’s baffled by the fact that the work is so solid despite no pre-pro. As far as him over stepping, they chose him (I’m assuming) because they admire his body of work and are gonna trust his process (extensive pre production).
Also I'm sure he's a decent enough person to not just plow over them, if anything he might admire them more and think "god damn they have THAT discography with no proper pre-pro?!"
He did both TREOS records, some stuff for the Used and a Skindred album (lol), but yes, it's been a long time.
Right, that’s the vibe I got too, I guess I moreso meant to say, I’m surprised he’s not saying “why fix what’s not broken?,” since he made the comments about rewriting. But your points make sense, thank you! So does that mean UO usually come up with the songs on the go as they record?
More so that the songs are completely ready to go when they get there. That’s what Aaron meant by “we would start tracking drums”. In other words, instead of sketching the songs out and tweaking them (what pre production is in short) they begin recording proper from the get go.
Interesting. I guess in that sense I always saw pre-pro as just a natural part of the original writing process. I’d imagine when they got to the studio in the past the producer had some additional say/tweaking of his own; I wouldn’t imagine they walk in and say don’t change anything? Sorry for all the questions!