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Tyler, the Creator - Flower Boy (July 21, 2017) Album • Page 4

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by btr, Jul 6, 2017.

  1. Contender

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  2. beachdude

    I'm not brave Prestigious

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  3. mattfreaksmeout

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  4. beachdude

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    Like... the whole argument is apparently that Tyler's "coming out" is just his latest gimmick, and that artistically and musically it's actually just the same old, same old, with the coming out "gimmick" used to disguise that. Not to mention almost no analysis of the actual songs. Dear god.
     
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  5. beachdude

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    Negative reviews are fine. Even negative reviews based on little evidence don't usually make me angry. But this is a BAD take, Jesus Christ.
     
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  6. beachdude

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    Dude this actually pissed me off haha... Like, I'm a nobody as a music journalist, but I try in every single thing I write to represent the subject matter fairly and honestly. The fact that their central argument is literally that Tyler's coming out is a "gimmick"... ughhhhhhh
     
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  7. mattfreaksmeout

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    I completely agree. It just felt like they missed the point several times, and it was clear there was a personal vendetta against him here, which I understand considering his past, but it shouldn't be the focal point of a review and used to say that nothing being said on the album is genuine. I haven't listened yet, so maybe I shouldn't get this specific but this paragraph really bothered me:
    "The Kali Uchis-featuring “See You Again” showcases what we’re supposed to believe is the softer side of Tyler, but it’s just so damn hard to believe anything as being genuine on this entire thing. Across the board, the stink mentioned at the top of this review is turning out to be horse shit. The lines “You don’t understand me, what the fuck do you mean/ It’s them rose to the cheeks, yeah it’s them dirt-colored eyes/ Sugar honey iced tea, bumblebee on the scene/ Yeah, I’d give up my bakery to have a piece of your pie/ Yugh!” are hollow apart from the “Yugh,” which is said like a puke noise and is the only bit that rings at all sincere."

    Just from reading that, it seems to me like the "Yugh" is actually supposed to directly contradict the last several lines? So it would make sense that would be the part that sounds genuine. I don't know, I can't wait to actually listen in full so I can properly rip this review apart.
     
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  8. beachdude

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    You're dead-on with your critique of those lines.
     
  9. mattfreaksmeout

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    So you'd think if I could pick that up just from reading the lines... lol That just seems like such a weird critique then. Either things went right over the writer's head, or they just did a terrible job explaining what they were trying to say.
     
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  10. Man that review is bad.
     
  11. FTank

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    I thought there's no way it could be as bad as you were all saying. It was.
     
  12. Contender

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    Isn't that the review the writer admitted to illegally downloading it so they could write this joke a review?
     
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  13. mattfreaksmeout

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    They probably had an advanced copy.
     
  14. Contender

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    If it's the same review, they admitted they didn't have an advance and downloaded it.
     
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  15. I like how she claims not to care about Tyler's sexuality before literally spending paragraphs questioning its authenticity. Completely unprofessional, but I'm not surprised COS would publish it
     
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  16. I asked the writer on Twitter if she would respond to how problematic it is to question somebody coming out and she immediately blocked me, so I guess not
     
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  17. CobraKidJon

    Fun must be always. Prestigious

  18. mattfreaksmeout

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    My bad haha I didn't remember that part and I clearly didn't read your post carefully.
     
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  19. My man @sophos34 roasting them on the twitter dot com machine

     
  20. sophos34

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    slam dunk
     
  21. sophos34

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    damn I got the block too
     
  22. The irony of being a critic but being unable to take criticism
     
  23. Damn you beat me to the ratio tweet lol
     
  24. skogsraet

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    Ugh. I didn't read the article but no one gets to deny someone else's sexuality and then block anyone who calls them out. Probably hits too close to home for me but that shit pisses me off. Really tempted to have a go at her on twitter myself now.
     
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  25. Be forewarned, no matter how delicately you approach the situation, you will be blocked
     
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