Rock music definitely isn’t *in* in terms of popular radio play. I bet they get some play on Sirius Octane or whatever
even if it’s not “in” - just look at Spotify or Apple Music monthly listeners for example. Take a band like Bring me the Horizon. They have 0 crossover hits, and if I didn’t have a wife that was 7 years younger than me and hip to that wave of scene music, I wouldn’t even know they exist. Yet they have 8 MILLION monthly listeners in Spotify. Certainly a sizable chunk of that is because they have songs that get played on rock radio , be it FM or octane on Siriusxm. Turnstile - OBJECTIVELY has exponentially more critical acclaim than BMTH , yet a fraction of the popularity - I show about 650K monthly listeners on Spotify. Being on a MAJOR label like Roadrunner, I just don’t see how they don’t Blow up to at least two or three times that number with this record. And in my opinion, they deserve to have the #1 rock record (whatsoever that even means these days) and multiple fuckin’ hits and be heard by as many people as possible. If nothing else, I’m just glad they are around and keeping the spirit of rock/punk/hardcore/whatever you want to call it alive in an incredible way.
BMTH has been a very popular band for many years now, ever since their deathcore days. Guaranteed that’s why they have that many streams.
Also, at this point, you kinda have to leave the idea of #1 selling rock records or having massive radio play in the past. Yeah, it would be awesome as fuck to see a band like Turnstile get something like that but that’s just not happening in 2021. Record sales, especially rock, are in the toilet and rock radio is like the Sloth guy in Se7en, not dead yet but basically there. I’m sure that’s not fun but that’s the reality of things, rock music is not commercially viable right now.
BMTH isn’t just relying on older material for those kinds of numbers though. A track off their last release that came out less than a year ago has 83 million plays
Their new stuff is vastly more popular than the old stuff yes but let’s not act like they haven’t been a popular band since the twilight years of the Bush administration and that people around the globe aren’t spinning their old stuff out of nostalgia either
Bring Me The Horizon is absolutely massive. I like Turnstile and all but they are not BMTH and they probably won’t ever be. Roadrunner is a major label but they also have other bands like Higher Power who Id really like to see tour with Turnstile especially after this record. If anyone in this thread is digging Glow On or earlier TS releases and hasn’t listened to 27 Miles Underwater by Higher Power I highly recommend.
I’d definitely back anyone that missed the Higher Power record to check it out. Also in terms of hardcore bands making non-core that I think would appeal to listeners of other genres, I would say the following: Higher Power - latest record has some big Deftones vibes but their singer sings in a much higher register. Almost an Axyl Rose kind of thing at times. A lot of people seem to be on Fiddlehead and One Step Closer, but those are definitely worth checking out. Anxious - 90s emo feat some OSC members. Their most recent single is really good. Sweet Soul - 90s pop punk. Their record So Far No Further is one of my favorites this year. Somerset Thrower - 90s/early 2000s emo Koyo - early 2000s emo worship Chubby & the Gang - English oi punk Webbed Wing - early Foo Fighters Cursetheknife - shoegaze that does the loud quiet thing. Gleemer - shoegaze I’m sure I’m leaving some things out as well.
It looks the higher powers that be in the music industry are positioning Turnstile as the crossover hardcore band that will appeal to the indie scene more, not really the band to try to push into the alternative rock fan’s ears. Not that they can’t, but getting BNM out the gate and the line in one of these long write ups about the higher ups in the record labels “rooting hard for this record” tells me that’s where they see Turnstile gaining ground.
Possibly a little late night rant I shouldn't have clicked send on, but again I think that this forum of music fans has a different idea of what "massive" bands are than the general public, and understandably so. I think all I was trying to say was that in very simple terms, there are songs on this record that could be played on fucking rock radio, and that would, in turn, result in more people listening to Turnstile. That's all. If anyone, the 'higher powers that be in the music industry' are the ones overcomplicating this by positioning them to be indie darlings lol.