I think the narrative is clearer, honestly. PV just seems like a record in turmoil, from relationships to day to day living. GN seems like a record wanting to focus on how to better your life, get distractions out of the way, find peace, and live simpler. It's not groundbreaking by any means at all, but I have a pretty stable life, and am in a good relationship, so GN resonates more with me personally than PV.
It’s possible I just don’t listen to GN lyrics as much and am more focused on the “vibe” Of the songs.
Both records are all about the vibe honestly. I know Turnover are not "deep" or technically proficient or whatever, but they just hit a sweet spot for me, and I've really enjoyed spending a lot of time listening to them since PV came out.
oh yeah, turnover is a band i enjoy because i like the moods they bring to their records but i don't think they're that good at anything else
Yeah GN is a fantastic album if you ask me. Never anything but great vibes when I put it on. Just doesn’t translate well live in a bar rock concert. And that’s okay.
there are bands even more mellow than that album that put on shows significantly better than turnover ever has. it's not the music, it's them as performers
They've been boring live for half a decade now. You see one Turnover show, you've seen them all. Also it's very weird to go from a chill vibe just swaying and standing still most of the night to people moshing/crowd surfing when they play "Cutting My Fingers Off".
I thought they were good live back in the PV days, but the GN tours have been hit and miss. Also I love their lyrics pretty much through all of their music. Different people have different ideas on what constitutes good lyrics, so I feel arguing about if they are "good" lyrically is pretty stupid when it's clearly subjective.
i mean, yeah, they play their songs and don't mess them up, it's not like they're the hotelier in that regard. but there's nothing memorable which might be worse.
Yeah I've seen them a handful of times and can't say that any of their performances were really that memorable, unfortunately.
Are the hotelier known for making a lot of mistakes live? I’ve never seen them, but I could totally see them being one of those “passionate and imperfect” type of live bands
Yeah, I’ve seen them do really good sets and I’ve also seen them do sloppy as hell sets. The drummer without fail messes up at least one time very noticeably per show. I love the songs so much it doesn’t matter but they are the last band I’d mention when putting on tight live shows.
There's a fine line between being too tight/exactly like the record and sloppy. Joyce Manor are one of the few bands that balance this perfectly. Coheed are my favorite band, but they are almost too tight live.
So i bought a ticket to see them in London in just under two weeks and now my friend has pulled out. Guess I'm going to my first solo show in four years!