Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by bedwettingcosmo, May 25, 2016.
Because Rachel McAdams and episode 4
“i’ll come back here and skullfuck your dad with your mom’s headless corpse”
Cmon now it is not one of the worst seasons of television. Let down from season one for sure.
nah, it is. it’s truly awful.
here for Jeremy Sauliner and nothing else. Expecting his first two episodes to be sick and then a steep drop off into mediocrity.
really not that bad. im real excited for this one.
Season 2 is garbage.
Only good part of season 2 was Collin Farrell asking his son if the other kids shit in his shoes
I actually do think the scene with the dude in the crow costume shooting Colin Farrell was bad ass. But it meant nothing and everything else was whack
Can we talk about how awesome the shootout was though. Almost Heat levels of awesomeness.
The worst thing about S2 was calling it "Season 2 of True Detective." Take that pretext out and you have a good dark season of television. Calling it one of the worst seasons of television is just flat incorrect. It took risks, it did something wildly different, and because of that it's blasted. S1 is incredible, no one is denying that. S2 is a good crime story. It's not perfect, and there is a lot not to love of it, but I enjoyed it. I implore anyone to say what they didn't like about without mentioning S1. And go...
I mean, if you’re going to take risks and try doing things differently, and it’s all very bad, people are going to call it very bad. Bad shows shouldn’t get credit for being bad in a different way.
how fucking dare you man
do i need to quote the line of dialogue that i quoted earlier today again
I might’ve been exaggerating. But I do think it’s a redeeming scene in that second season.
"You ever bully or hurt anybody again, I'll come back and buttfuck your father with your mom's headless corpse on this goddamn lawn.
Gotta quote it correctly because it so unbelievably heinous.
Season 2 ended up being bad, but it had a lot of good things going for it. It had some really good actors doing strong work, even if the scripts stranded them in some horrible scenes. The writing let them down big time. The script feels like an extremely rushed first draft where there's a basic idea for a story and cool and interesting elements but they never took the time to properly work any of it out in an intelligent way.
My wife and I have talked about this before, and we both think one of the other things that hurt it big time was the location where the story was set. Season 1 had a really cool and evocative location that was dripping with atmosphere; Season 2 had southern California, where literally thousands of movies and shows are set just because. I know it was a made up city but to me it just looked and felt like LA. That's one of the things I am most excited about with Season 3: the story taking place somewhere interesting again. Between that, the GREAT cast, and the fact that they allegedly took more time to figure the story out I am extremely excited for Season 3.
I try to look at Saulnier walking early in the sense that sometimes turmoil can lead to excellent creativity. I think Cary Fukunaga is an incredible filmmaker but I'm not convinced he is *solely* responsible for Season 1's greatness, although he was undoubtedly a huge part. I like to think the push-and-pull between him and Pizzolatto really lead to making it great, even if Pizzolatto seems like kind of a schmuck in real life.
We'll see how Season 3 goes...
That skullf---ing line was incredible - almost good enough to make up for whatever the hell was going on with the death of that rando guy, was it Stan? ALMOST. The guy is a total nobody and all of a sudden his death is a major deal for like 15 seconds. Stan! It honestly played like parody to me, like we were randomly in an SNL skit making fun of hard-boiled HBO detective shows for a few.
Yikes - yesterday I talked about trying to remain hopeful for Season 3, and how I try to give Pizzolatto the benefit of the doubt, but this little anecdote does not bode well. Apparently he wanted to cut up the long tracking shot following McConnaughey through the shootout in Season 1 -->
Cary Fukunaga on the ‘Ridiculous’ Reason He Exited ‘It’ and Fighting Nic Pizzolatto to Keep That ‘True Detective’ Long Take
It's hard for me to even say this, because I think the single most important aspect of a movie or show is a good well written story, and I think overall in general the way most Hollywood productions treat the script - like sometimes going into production without one (!!?!?!?) - is horrendous and directly responsible for some of the crap they peddle at us, buuuuuut it does sort of sound like Pizzolatto is pretty arrogant and thinks his writing is better than it is.
Like I always assumed Season 2 was rushed through the writing process and he had to get it out there before the story or the scripts were really ready - but if he looks at Season 2 and is legit like "Yeah, that was amazing. That was what I wanted. Boom." then I think a lot more credit for Season 1's greatness should go to Fukunaga.
Imagine shooting that and then somebody being like that’s cool and all but let’s chop it up baby!
Also super weird how he tried to make fun of Cary in the second season with that one director portraying him.
I can't come up with a good reason that someone working on that show would look at that and think to chop it up. When looked at in light of things like what Cameron mentioned such as the very thinly veiled caricature mocking Cary Fukunaga in Season 2 that reeeeeeeally starts to look like someone being overly Petty and not happy with any attention or acclaim paid to anyone else on the project.
I'll wait to hear about whether S3 is worth watching. I can't put myself through another weekly season 2 experience.
If it’s any consolation, Fukunaga’s Maniac on Netflix looks like it’ll be a decent time.
I'm sure if anything, Mahershala will give us another incredible performance