True Detective (HBO) TV Show • Page 12

For me that's really part of the whole point - all of that work and how much it affected their lives and in the end while they did in fact 'get their guy' so to speak, they've barely scratched the surface of what was actually going on and certainly didn't make much of a dent or difference in the grand scheme of things. Trying to be okay with that thought and still showing up to do your best every day. The guy they caught was a weirdo who spoke in a fake British accent and fucked his sister, true, but that's not what they were/are/always will be up against. There's tragic beauty in that.

Season 1 was perfect for me, beginning to end, and is one of my favorite things (movies, TV - the distinction isn't what it used to be for me) that I have seen in years.

 

Season 2 was never going to be equal to Season 1 because Pizzolatto did not (maybe still doesn't) understand what a director or director(s) bring to the table when you're making something for the screen as opposed to the written page. And I am someone who absolutely thinks story is king and that good writing is criminally neglected in almost everything Hollywood churns out. But it's not the only thing. I do think Season 2 could have been great if he had taken at least a year or maybe two to keep working on the story and writing the actual episodes. It is painfully obvious watching it that it was rushed into production too fast.

I did not have a good feeling when Jeremy Saulnier left the production early due to creative differences, but I did not notice any dip in quality at all in Episode 3 with Daniel Sackheim taking over directing duties. I'm hoping Pizzolatto is becoming a better collaborator, and so far in Season 3 it seems like it.

 

I mean, yeah his alibi is a gardener and he fucks his sister (and imprisons his own father in a shed) but his family has also done so much other vile shit. He's a product of generations of evil. I think the point is to be repulsed by him.

 

I wanted more with the generations of evil. I wanted it darker

 

I can see that. There certainly was a ton of build-up.

 

Damn I guess I really don’t remember season two.

 

Sorry but how does it get darker than fighting for the will to live/care when you consider humanity a mistake and that we all need to walk arm in arm into extinction? IE Rust Cohle’s world view.

 

I was pretty distracted when watching episode 3. I enjoyed it but didn't get much from it. I'm gonna have to rewatch it.

 

Enjoyed every episode so far. Looking forward to the 90s story becoming an investigation now.

 

Generational sex cults

 

That theory on the previous page doesn't explain why she'd want to kill or kidnap a child...but it did show a black dude with a brown sedan, so that's interesting. Wonder who the white woman is.

Also, I really liked the camera work in ep 3.

 

I loved the camera work too, and I was paying close attention because of the change in directors.

 

Never would have imagined myself enjoying Stephen Dorff’s character more than Ali’s. I hope we get to see more of his backstory.

 

I am a little rusty on the gritty details of Season 1, and I'm not trying to quibble over the semantics of sex crimes, but those kids on the video were caught up in a creepy sex cult and it is implied that they've been doing that kind of shit for a long time with how many missing women and children are referenced over the years past tying in to the ministries and the schools and all of that - isn't that a generational sex cult...?

A lot of the disappointment I heard from people I know in real life who watched the show and didn't love it as much as I did were let down when a lot of the metaphysical/supernatural stuff that was hinted at ended up being much more real world. I thought that was kinda what you were getting at when you said you were disappointed in the ending when it was being built up as very complex.

 

Giving this a try now. I liked the first season but I wouldn’t say it has stuck with me deeply since finishing it. A lot of this first episode definitely reminds me of that season. Never cared to watch S2.

And any time generational sex cults come up I just remember Borrasca and how I still expect every show like this to turn out to be that story. Sharp Objects really made me think we were going there and then it didn’t. Some of that story is way too outlandish for a serious adaptation of course, but the vibe is so similar.

 

Wow Goodwin looks unrecognizable in this.

 

Didn’t they include that? That’s what the gross video tape was proof of

 

Rewatched episode three with no distractions. Definitely on par with the quality of the first two. The Walmart scene and the hallucination scenes were highlights. But I also loved the closing scene at the bar. Those two have great chemistry. Great season so far.

 

I thought episode 3 was a little boring, but still high quality. The direction was noticeably different.

 

I enjoyed this episode. I thought Nic P did a solid job as director.

 

I continue to find this season incredibly boring. Hoping things pick up in the back half.

 

Episode 4 was pretty slow compared to the previous 3, but I still enjoyed it. It made the whole "who done it?" question harder to answer for me.

 

Episode 1 and I’m sold.

 

Who is behind the peep hole? Was it the cousin? Or was it the mother that put it in there and sold her daughter out to the sex cult operating under the alias of the Hoyt Chicken Farm outreach program!?

 

Usually I hate this type of thing, but I actually enjoyed the way the episode ended. That situation's gonna be a goddamn shitshow.

Like I said before, I think Pizzolatto actually acquitted himself pretty well as director. For my money, the best directed episode so far is Episode 3, which I really wouldn't have guessed ahead of time.

I still think it's a mistake to bring in different directors for different episodes as opposed to having one unified directorial vision across the entire season a la Season 1. And I think Pizzolatto is unfortunately still discounting what a solid director brings to a project. I'm not sure this is something he'll ever get over. My dream version of Season 3 would actually be entirely directed by Daniel Sackheim, and I really thought going in that I was going to be sorely missing Jeremy Saulnier behind the camera after Episode 2.

That anecdote about Season 1 keeps coming back to my mind where Pizzolatto wanted to chop up the long take where Rust Cohle is in the gunfight into smaller shots.

This episode was good, and I am definitely still super hooked on this season, but I would be lying if I didn't admit that I wonder how much better this episode could have been with the type of director who knew that long tracking shot was the more exciting way to handle that gunfight versus the guy who wanted to chop it up into a more generic, quickly edited series of coverage shots like you would see on any other damn TV show.