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Trent Reznor on How How Social Media Creates a ‘Toxic Environment’ for Music

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Melody Bot, Jan 13, 2017.

  1. Melody Bot

    Your friendly little forum bot. Staff Member

    This article has been imported from chorus.fm for discussion. All of the forum rules still apply.

    Yahoo, or is it Altaba?, sat down with Trent Reznor and he has some opinions on things:


    What has crept in is that everyone’s a commentator now. The internet is giving voice to everybody thinking that someone gives a shit what they have to say and they have the right. I think, in general, that has created a toxic environment for artists and led to some very safe music. Artists are trying to make music to please the tastemakers that tell the sheep what to like. It’s a vicious cycle and I think it’s unhealthy. I don’t see any Princes emerging on the scene today. I see a lot of people making formulaic, made to please, vegan restaurant patron-type shit. And I think it creates an environment where people are too fuckin’ worried about what other people have to say. And people who have never made anything think it’s OK to talk shit about stuff they have no right to talk about. You got a Facebook account? Nobody gives a fuck. You haven’t achieved anything.

    I’m not sure how he really feels about this.

     
  2. I like angry Trent.
     
  3. Ben Lee

    I drink coffee and dad my kids Supporter

    I agree with his thoughts on this but I do think there are some Prince's out there.
     
  4. Max_123

    Nope. Prestigious

    Pretty much this. I mean, i'm sure he has very little time in his day to go out and search for some of the really cool shit that's out there, he's probably just referring to stuff that everyone constantly hears
     
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  5. daldalian

    hopelessly yours, Alabama

    "Here's my opinion about why I don't like some music and why people shouldn't listen to opinions"

    It sound like he needs to hang out in different parts of the Internet. If anything, in 2017, it's much easier to get your weird music out to the masses than ever before. The only likelihood of there being more "safe" music out there now is simply because there is more music readily available now than was accessible in earlier decades.

    Yeah, the radio still blows and there are still tons of copycat, safe artists and toxic armchair critics. But eccentric, eclectic music is only a click away.
     
  6. Supernova

    Prayers/Triangles Prestigious

    I'd love to learn who those bands/artists are he is referring to. We will never know.
     
  7. Hazelnutsack

    Irregular

    Can someone inform him that Spotify, pandora, last.fm, bandcamp, SoundCloud and YouTube exists?
     
  8. Trent Gill

    trentgill.ca Supporter

    This is the same guy who advocated for an Oink-like service when it was around, so I'm pretty sure he's fairly informed about the state of digital music, despite his Luddite-like opinion shown here.
     
  9. Leftandleaving

    I will be okay. everything Supporter

    sounds like someone who hasnt listened to music in 20 years
     
  10. Yellowcard2006

    Trusted

    He should check out the chorus.fm forums and see what an actually online music community looks like.
     
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  11. ConArdist

    Subgenres Should Die

    Personally, I believe it degrades music. Not some platforms, but youtube comments make me want put knives in my eyes. OMG I LOVE KELLIN:hearteyes::hearteyes::hearteyes: Most people on social media don't have a fuck what they're talking about, marginalizing bands, and creating new subgenres every damn day. And don't get me started on EDM fans. 'PLUR:peace:Fuck you that's trance not techno!' "House didn't have origins in the gay community, retard!":-|
    -Basically every EDM fan I know, and I'm an EDM producer.
     
  12. supernovagirl

    Poetic and noble land mermaid

    Yawn. a common mindset of people of that generation, I think. I know that's a blanket statement but I've seen it so many times. People who complain about the younger generations and technologies- honestly this is life in the digital age so either get with it and adapt or get left behind.
     
  13. Ben Lee

    I drink coffee and dad my kids Supporter

    I don't think you need to be left behind. He has merit on his thoughts about social media. It's widely abused and not everyone is of the mindset to ignore the garbage on it. I think it's still totally possible to release music without having a large social media campaign around it.
     
  14. supernovagirl

    Poetic and noble land mermaid

    I don't think you need to be left behind- I just think that's the reality of the situation in this day and age. I think that social media is a vital part of releasing music now and to write it off, especially in such an angry/aggressive way, won't win you many fans. Just my opinion though. I'm sure there are plenty of people around his age who agree with him- like I said, it's a mindset I see a lot coming from that generation.
     
  15. PandaBear!

    Trusted Prestigious

    Social media creates a toxic environment for everything (except memes of course). No-one is as funny irl as they portray on twitter, no-one looks the way the do irl as they do on their IG, and no-one is living their life they way their snapchat suggests they might be. The latter is the absolute worst of all social media platforms.

    Trent is still bitter though. He's somewhat right when he says that certain influencers (or "tastemakers", as he says) can make or break any band or brand these days, but people are making all kinds of music that's reaching all kinds of people. Personally though, I would struggle being a famous band in the social media age because I am far too worried about others' opinions that any negative criticism would spiral me into a deep depression.
     
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