Tour Prediction and Speculation Thread Tour • Page 336

Yeah people have been doing shit like that and swinging chairs at underground hardcore, powerviolence, grindcore, crust, etc. shows still to this day so I'm not sure what people are freaking out about (with that trash can clip at least)

 

I think its always like that at rolling loud. I went in 2015 and 2017. And during Denzel curys set in 2017 it was a literal war zone. Flying trash cans everywhere. People stole a golf cart and just started driving around crashing into people. We got evacuated day 1 cause someone faked a gun shooting. Idk its always been a super poorly run fest and after that year I never wanted to return

 

I think the main problem with rolling loud is all the teenagers

 

I will say, a venue I work at had a teenage hyperpop rapper perform a few weeks ago, and "hide all the trash cans small enough to throw" was part of the security brief. We ended up having several teenagers rush the stage by hopping off stairwells or barricades by the end of the night.

I think it's a bit short-sighted to view this as a hip-hop-specific issue, but I think declining concert ettiquette combined with whole rage subculture is bubbling up in adverse ways for a lot of these artists with young fanbases.

 

I don't think you've ever seen anyone actually killed/dead before. Because, that's not something that someone looks like when they're killed. Believe me.

 

I think we had a perfect storm of events that made stuff like this inevitable.

1) NO ONE knows how to act right at shows since COVID

2) jacked up ticket prices and mostly seated venues on major rap tours probably meant that this was the first GA experience for a lot of these young people

3) a lot of kids who were too young for Astroworld don’t see it as a tragedy, they see it as a legendary party and they want to find the next one

4) social media algorithms boost clips of bad behavior at shows

5) hardcore having its mainstream moment means some of these kids have probably seen clips of crowdkilling at like a Sunami show without understanding that that’s a different world entirely from RL

6) also worth noting this took place within 3 months and 100 miles of Swamp Fest; which is always chaos. Central Florida is in the zeitgeist right now as the spot where wild ragers can happen with little to no consequences

 

those shows are not insured

 

Not a huge fan of the support, but I will definitely hit up that Saosin show.

 

You guys remember this band?

 

For the OG deathcore kids

 

Oooh Saosin and Silent Planet

 

Cliffdiver are calling it a day. Two final shows in OKC (7/11) and Tulsa (7/18)