Tour Prediction and Speculation Thread Tour • Page 14

Are they though? They scooped up JJR to manage and sell merch for them as soon as the Wonder Years dropped him.

 

Everyone's Talking! about how this band is gross. I need The Paradox to not shoot their rising star in the foot and get OFF of this lineup

 

If anyone was looking to attend Shadow of the City in Asbury Park, tickets are pretty cheap on StubHub.

 

hate to say it but the amount of exposure they will get from these shows will far out weigh any negative talk from the internet about ATL

 

NYC folks there might be a Lorde pop up show at Barclay’s Center

 

Awesome Chicago pop-punk band hittin' the road! For fans of early Green Day, Pinhead Gunpowder, Dillinger Four, Raging Nathans, the Methadones, etc.

 

So I've actually come to like later period ATL (they annoyed the fuck out of me in the 00's) and it struck me as odd that a band that clearly didn't need a 3rd guitar player live has one. I assume that's because Jack just sucks at playing.

 

Nah she did add a date there in Dec. Wonder if it's also with The Japanese House.

 

is there a broader disconnect between online popularity and hard ticket demand among rappers compared to other genres?

I’m a Three 6 fan, BTHN are obviously legends, and Tech N9ne’s live shows are always a good time. However, sheds, really? I thought I was just out of touch when I saw this announced, but not so evidently. Lil’ Wayne’s recently announced shed tour looks like a let down in most markets as well.

We saw it as well with Busta Rhymes, Bobby Shmurda, Ice Cube, Cash Money Millionaires, etc. The only thing I circle back to is misjudging demand based on social media / ego / streaming metrics as rappers tend to have much larger #’s compared to other genres. However, it seemingly translates to hard tickets worse than any other genre yet the artists seemingly haven’t figured that out.

Overbooking obviously isn’t exclusive to rap. We've discussed numerous tours that look like a sea of blue for this summer. It also isn’t saying there aren’t rappers who do excellent #’s (Kendrick, Drake, etc.). Just an overall observation.

 

Rock can’t sell albums, Rap can’t sell tickets is the antiquated motto.

 

For many of the legacy acts across genres, it’s definitely an ego thing. The only time when some of them will sell out 15-20k sheds again is when they announce farewell tours. As far as rap, the only rappers that consistently sell well here where I live are Drake, Kendrick, Cole and Wiz.

 

Not big enough to do arenas, ego too big to play small clubs.

 

I think the Lil Wayne jump to arenas and sheds was because of how quick that smaller venue tour sold, and the price of the tickets on the secondary. They overestimated the demand for Lil Wayne.

 

I think it's a matter of them having high name recognition and plenty of people who enjoy their music (i.e., the hits). But not a lot of die-hards willing to pay $$$ for tickets.

Similar issue that J.Lo had and honestly I'm sure it's happened quite a bit on a smaller scale for certain YouTube personalities, artists that get popular on TikTok, etc. But because it's on a smaller scale I can't think of a proper example. LOL

 

There's definitely a fair amount of big acts who have fans but don't have, like, fans if you know what I mean. In the older days (like 2008) you could get into a shed show for $55, buy a few drinks and sing along to the hits with other casual fans. If these tickets are now $150+, might not be the same incentive.

 

Yeah like how this year at Coachella T-Pain had almost the entire crowd at his stage but how he had to cancel a tour a few years back because of low ticket sales. I get it though, I’d absolutely see T-Pain at a fest I’m already attending to hear the hits but I’m not going to pay to see him by himself (although I ended up seeing Japanese Breakfast at the fest instead)

 

I think the lineup really matters too. Like, Cypress Hill couldn’t do an arena anymore, but if you get Cypress Hill, Ice Cube and like, The Pharcyde, then that’ll sell tickets super easy.

Or as mentioned, announce a final tour. That Wu Tang farewell tour seems to be going well. Having RTJ doesn’t hurt either

 

Ha wow that looks bad, even by typical Jones Beach standards.
Ego probably plays a part in it, but I also gotta imagine Live Nation were somewhat aware of the draw and just booked these venues for low cost and other types of revenue. I dont know for sure but I would guess that a 15k ampitheater that is 30 miles outside of a major city, after labor day and on a weeknight, would be cheaper to book than a 5k venue in the city on a Fri/Sat night.
They'll probably sell like 3,000 true tickets, throw maybe another 2,000 tickets on groupon for $20, and then give 5,000 tickets away to radio stations and other giveaways, banking on the majority of those free ticket holders to spend money on booze.

 

Funny you say that... Ice Cube had a show here in Boston last year scheduled for the TD Garden. Cypress Hill was main support with Twista and somebody else beneath them. The show was cancelled due to poor ticket sales. If I'm recalling correctly, tickets were in the $75+ category at a minimum and there was a a lot of blue everywhere in the venue. Nobody was buying tickets.

In contrast? Cypress Hill sold out a 3.5k capacity room here the following spring in advance. Obviously that's not a stadium but I'm pretty sure they sold more or just as many tickets on their own than that bigger package tour sold.

 

My friends surprised me with a concert over this past weekend and I got to see "All the Blink Things" which is a blink cover band that was absolutely perfect for drunk me.

Then this week I saw a free Gin Blossoms show at an intimate place in DC which was really cool.

This weekend I have Warped DC and already dreading a 12 hour day two days in a row.

 

You need LOTS of hardcore fans to be able to sell tickets at these prices. The current state of concert going is pricing out the casual fan, unless it’s a mega big pop star

 

So tonight’s drain show has been bumped down from a 1400 indoor air conditioned venue, to their 500 person outdoor venue with shitty sound on a 90 degree day, that has woods behind it. I’m not pleased at all.

 

Four Year Strong better still be doing their annual holiday show