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hopefully they are using past tense cause the album is meant to be out before the tour

 

Right. I suspect this was a press release bit of text written up by the label for advertising purposes. You'll notice Tate's write-up includes the same wording verbatim, except it doesn't mention West.

My guess is that two different press release documents were given out by the label, with the one Tate posted to be used at this time and the one we are seeing at venues' websites intended to be used nearer to the date of the album release. I think the venues screwed up in posting the wrong text and let the cat out of the bag about West.

 

That cat has been on the loose for years.

 

How hot of a take is it to say that nothing that came after Major/Minor is better than it? (To Be Everywhere is its equal)

 

With Palms I can see an argument for that but Horizons is a really cool album with some experimental stuff thrown in. That’s the thrice I love

 

It’s a bad take, that’s for sure. All 3 post-hiatus albums are better than M/m.

 

I think Palms left such a bad taste in my mouth that it unfairly tarnished Horizons. I'll give it more proper spins.

 

Major/Minor is my least favorite non-Identity Crisis album. It feels middle of the road and I only revisit a few songs (Call It In The Air, Blinded, Blur and Yellow Belly). They bounced back with To Be Everywhere, then lost me a little bit again with Palms. That one had more of a tracklisting issue though, as the Deeper Wells songs are miles above some of the album tracks.

Horizons is their best since Beggars, even one of my favorites at this point. A neat continuation of the sound they settled on in the latter part of their career while bringing back the arty vibes and experimentation of Vheissu and The Alchemy Index.

 

I made a playlist with Artist Revisited, To Be Everywhere, and Horizons that I’ve been listening to a bit on shuffle, to try and get back into the band. I’ll still listen to Beggars and Artist Revisited, and I listen to each new album when it drops and go “yeah that’s good,” but I just haven’t had the fandom I had when they stopped after M/M.

Every time a song from Horizon comes on, it really stands out in such a great way. Honestly didn’t remember it being this strong. If it’d come out when I had that momentum, it’d be an easy top 3 album of theirs for me; still may get there pretty soon.

 

Palms is my favorite post hiatus.

Beggars
Alchemy Index
Vheissu
Artist
Palms
TBE
Horizons East
Major/minor
Illusion
Identity

 

Palms is very good though.

I would put my top M/m tracks (Yellow Belly, Promises, Call It In the Air, Blur, Anthology, and Disarmed) up against my top tracks from Palms (The Grey, Just Breathe, Everything Belongs, A Branch In the River, Blood On Blood, and Beyond the Pines) and probably give the edge to Palms, if only slightly.

And that doesn't even take into account the steep drop (IMO) from those M/m tracks to the rest of the album vs. Palms which drops to more mid-tier quality.

Plus, if we're including Deeper Wells, then Palms has the best song of the bunch with "In This Storm".

 

major minor is basically a perfect album to me. palms has hold up a light which is dreadful, and while there are some cool ideas here and there, i feel like the album has no flow at all. to me, horizons shows off the inventive side of the band much better, and the production/mix is top notch. i remember hearing color of the sky for the first time and being wowed by how big it sounded.

 

While not one of my top tracks, I still love "Hold Up a Light". It's a jam to sing along to and I would easily take it over any of the M/m tracks I didn't name in my last post.

 

I love Palms. Always have. I've made that known here pretty vocally. I've also been equally vocal about my extreme dislike of M/m. So this conversation is wild to me haha.

My M/m through post-hiatus ranking would be:

Palms
Horizons

TBE










M/m

 

Overall rankings get tough, but Vheissu and Beggars are 1a/1b, no question, followed by Artist + Revisited, which really reignited my love for that album. And M/m and Identity are at the bottom.

Alchemy, Illusion, and the 3 post-hiatus records are in the middle but can kind of shuffle around. I would probably put Horizons and TBE over Palms, at least most days, but not sure exactly where Alchemy and Illusion slot in.

 

Vheissu is a flawless record, I maintain that it was the greatest improvement in style, songwriting, and experimentation between any two Thrice albums.

My hot take that I've also maintained for years is that Beggars was kind of a letdown after Vheissu/Alchemy Index even though it makes sense as a logical progression

 

i will not accept beggars hate.
everyone’s rankings can vary, but beggars should be middle to high imo

 

I remember being very disappointed by Beggars after loving Alchemy. It seemed a bit too safe compared to its predecessors. It's grown on me over time, but I still don't go back to it often.

 

We got a new sick pro shot set and somehow the thread did this today. SMH

 

I’ll be honest, I could not care less about some video recording of live songs (that aren’t new songs).

But I’m always down for discussing a band’s discography.

 

I can't imagine calling a record "safe" that opens with a Drive Like Jehu-esque post-hardcore song like "All the World Is Mad", transitions perfectly to the blues rock of "The Weight", and then makes another abrupt but still perfect transition to post-rock with "Circles".

And that's just like the first 10 minutes.

 

You and your iPhone XR are "some video recording." A pro-shot video for a band with shockingly little pro-shot material is meaningful, especially when it's using the house audio.

 

I never said it was a good or nuanced opinion. At the time it was probably more like "hey, this sucks because no screaming."