I initially had thoughts to record more, but after this song I just got way too into it. Plus, most of the later recordings would have been mostly my off-key vocals as I tried to sing along.
My fiancee was recording some stuff. We watched / listened to them later and half of it is me shouting hoarsely. So we won't be sharing those haha.
This is, again, petty semantics. But, but, poetry cannot be uninspired because obviously if he had not had inspiration, there wouldn't have been motivation to make the music. You're trying to bend definitions of terms to conform to a whiny gripe about someone disagreeing with your appraisal of an album. If an artist pours their all into a work, it can still come out boring and.... sound uninspired/. Just say you are needlessly offended because you want to rush to the defense of your favorite band and because that's kind of the culture here.
You cannot "feel a band's inspiration or lack of inspiration." You claim you can. You can "hear" inspiration such as The Pixies in "Hurricane." You can "hear" a different drummer if you've been hearing the same drummer for x amount of years. You cannot hear or feel if the drummer was inspired or uninspired during recording. Also, please provide me an example of an inspired song and an uninspired song.
How about I just substitute its dictionary definitions? I feel this album is lacking in imagination or originality. I feel Treading Paper is not mundane. I feel Wake Up is unoriginal. I feel Music Box is not spiritless. I feel Stay With Me is pedestrian. Holy shit, this is annoying.
I'd die if I tried to eat paleo. I like pasta/rice/etc way too much. personal fitness does play a part....but mainly it's my love of med carne asada and spinach that drove my lunch choices today.
You can feel whatever you want towards any given song as long as it relates to you. But you overstepped by stating that you can feel whether Ed, Riley, Dustin and Teppei were inspired or not. Of course they were inspired. You don't write music unless you're inspired. Not liking the new songs doesn't make them uninspired; it simply means you're not inspired by them.
At least for me, M/m has been greatly rehabilitated following the new record. I was really turned off by M/m at the beginning. When it was released was when I was my most militantly anti-religion and I just couldn't escape the feeling that the record was somehow MORE religious than previous Thrice records. I knew Dustin put his faith into his lyrics, but I had convinced myself it was never as blatant as it was on M/m. It bugged me beyond belief and hampered my enjoyment of the record immensely. And then there came the possibility that it might be the LAST Thrice record and I just recoiled from it entirely for a long period. Having revisited it with a much more sober view of religion (and having even opened myself up to the possibility of faith / religion in my life), and with the perspective that Thrice are well and truly back, I have a greatly different view. I realized that there really wasn't a dramatic increase in religious lyrics at all, I must have just been hyper sensitive at the time. I found myself really enjoying the record and I listen to it quite frequently now. Really, the only song I just can't stand is "Listen Through Me."
I don't think there was an increase in religious lyrics, at least not compared to Beggars, but they just seemed more blatantly religious. I still liked the record a lot, even as someone who is as unreligious as they come, but at times I would get annoyed with that aspect of it. I will say that I'm quite happy it wasn't the last Thrice record, and that it seems like we'll get at least one more.
album probably has their best production and vocally and lyrically is one of the MOST inspired records the band has done.
That's a very interesting take. The only song that really stood at to me at the time for being religious was Words. Now that you mention it, Listen Through Me is as well. For me, I can ignore the meaning of songs in able to enjoy the music. I'm as anti religion as it gets, but love Wolves at the Gate. There is no getting around the meaning of their songs or trying to interpret them differently, they are about praising Jesus. I'm such a fan of their music, songwriting, ect and honestly I want bands to sing/scream about what they are passionate about. You can feel the passion in Wolves and Thrice and it makes the song better, whether I agree with the message or not.
Inspired Dustin's solo work and not to write a "face smashing thrice record" lol. I hope Ed gets his way next record
What I found was that there was a ton of Thrice songs that I simply didn't realize were particularly religious haha. I just wasn't as familiar with phrases and stuff that would be obvious to believers. I was purposefully ignorant on all matters religious. And, Dustin didn't rely as much on "persona" with M/m, which was another way I let myself come to grips with the religious element from previous songs. I can't really explain how, but knowing that Dustin was writing a "character" so to speak, allowed me to disassociate a little.
That is the stance I had taken leading up to M/m, but for whatever reason at the time of release, that record just set me off haha. I think I just felt it was the strongest Dustin had been to preaching directly at me. Songs like "Listen Through Me" seemed so forceful and direct. And even "Call It In The Air" seemed to be challenging the listener about their faith, but I may have just been projecting haha.
Seriously, it's their most politically charged record to date (lyrically) and yet, they're uninspired? #LOL
I've never thought about it, but I can def see it. Your icon is awesome btw. Really happy with the first issue.
Thank goodness that no one ever said that and that you are feigning illiteracy to repeatedly set up a straw man. But keep boxing shadows, tiger. The noblest of fights are sometimes against oneself.
Call It In The Air, which I liked live... I skip every time now. Definitely my least favorite Thrice song.
Thanks for sharing. Rarely do people seem willing to admit that their opinions and even their worldviews can change over time
Definitely better live. Dustin has said that he was sick while recording vocals for that song, which I think is one of the major problems with the recording.
Wolves at the Gate are my favorite metalcore band making music today. Your perspective on them is fascinating. They definitely have more thought-provoking and well-versed lyrics than most any other Christian artist today. Highly educated and carefully aligned with historic, reformed theology.