Jammed it last night for the first time in a while and had a real nice time listening to it I gotta be honest.
Lyrically. Musically they both have cool things going for them, but the lyrics just take me out of them.
M/M is really bad lyrically and is one of the main reasons I don't go back to it. Musically I find it boring too and it just sounds like a band that lost their energy
only listened to this a couple times cause I'm slammed on a job, but immediate thoughts are a bit meh. need to give it a proper listen
I don't mean this as an insult to anyone's personal beliefs, but born-again baptism imagery is just not something I can deal with.
Yeah, other than In Exile, I did not enjoy the rest of the songs on first listen. At The Last was an acquired taste (that I really enjoy now), but I'm still pretty lukewarm about the rest of the tracks.
I'll try to give beggars another listen and tell you guys what i think. Dunno if I'll like it anymore that I have the last few times but maybe something will finally click for me.
From what I've seen, I think Beggars is still a favorite among at least a plurality of the fans.... at least that's the case for the latter of the band's discography. From my POV, I get surprised when people say they clearly rank M/M or TBE ahead of Beggars.
For me it's just the bluesy and stripped down dorection. I can appreciate it but I dont really go for that kind of music.
M/M wasnt much better. I really liked like the first 3 songs and then a couple other here and there. Everything else was just kinda there. The period of Thrice after Fire/Water and before TBE was a rough one for me.
Interesting that people see such a large variance in quality between Thrice albums. In my mind they only have one bad album, and have been on a nine record winning streak ever since.
I always thought Beggars was just loved on this site, but I feel most fans you'd run into at shows are in the Artist/Vheissu camp. It's a hard thing to judge though. For myself, I'm just into harder music over softer, so Beggars is towards the bottom even though I love it.
It does for sure, esp At the Last. But its still stripped and toned down more than most of their other albums. Just a preference. They do heavy so well that when Beggars dropped, it took a bit for me to adapt to their an album adapting more of their Earth sound.
We're about to rank stuff again. I can feel it. I also find it interesting what aspects people compare on diffrent albums. I would never say Beggars and Earth cover the same sonic territory. But someone who generally listens to heavier music might not see as much difference as I do.
All the Beggars tracks sound amazing live. At the Last, Great Exchange and Talking Through Glass are the only three I haven't seen live yet, which I would love to. Since they did Wood and Wire last tour, I'd love for them to bust out one of those as a rare one.
I love that it sounds raw without sounding like it was just thrown together willy-nilly. I've never been one to focus on riffs as a make or break aspect of music i listen to. Now what I a sucker for is dynamics. Give me that loud soft and I melt. I think thats where Beggars, and especially the title track(probably my favorite song by Thrice tied with Daedalus) really shine. But as far as what pulls me into a song; lyrics, an intersting chord progression, and melody have always been more important to me than riffatude.