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Thrice - Horizons / West (October 3rd, 2025) • Page 8

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by ryan murphy, Jul 22, 2025.

  1. Ricky's Law

    Acclaimed Rock Innovators

     
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  2. drew_willy

    Newbie

    I think this will be the love song on the album (a la "My Soul" or "In Years to Come"), as some of its lyrics are "they keep on telling me our stars are crossed. / But I think that you might be my albatross."

    EDIT: Just saw exanctile's post noting the same thing. My bad.
     
  3. exanctile

    Fight the long defeat.

    Agreed, I think the tone comes across that way for sure. And no worries, I spotted those lyrics on the pics of the deluxe vinyl packaging. Excited to hear the full band version after that acoustic preview.
     
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  4. Greg

    The Forgotten Son Supporter

    Hard to see it as a love song if the character in the song is saying she is their albatross
     
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  5. Kmil

    Trusted

    That sounds like very much my type of shit, excited for Monday.
     
  6. exanctile

    Fight the long defeat.

    Yeah, the contrast doesn't make a lot of sense to me: crossed stars are negative, but so is an albatross around your neck...
     
  7. drew_willy

    Newbie

    Of course, our culturally widespread notion of "star-crossed [lovers]" mostly goes back to Shakespeare in *Romeo & Juliet*. There we see a case of two people throwing themselves passionately into a love affair in spite of what would be wise and in spite of "fate" or "circumstances" being aligned against them. It is a tragic story, but not one lacking in love between the characters. The idea in Shakespeare that gives rise to the phrase is that THE STARS are conspiring against the lovers. This comes from an earlier idea that the stars determine one's fate (astrological idea). So, this is a case of two people in love but involved in circumstances outside their control that hinder and harm them.

    The cultural association of the Albatross is from *The Rime of the Ancient Mariner*, that poem by Coleridge; It has been 15 years since I read it, but my recollection of it is that the speaker kills the Albatross early on, then later realizes he was foolish to do so, as the bird was a good omen and killing it leads to his circumstances conspiring against him (storms and whatnot). Then, he ends up cursed to wear the Albatross around his neck as a reminder of his foolishness in initially killing it. So, this is a case of a person creating his own negative "fate" as a result of his rash early behavior.

    So, maybe the song will be a sweet love song but more from the angle of the speaker and his lover sticking together through difficult circumstances that feel like fate trying to harm them st every turn. Also, he says others CLAIM their stars are crossed. Doesn't mean he thinks it is true.
     
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  8. Ricky's Law

    Acclaimed Rock Innovators

  9. Knowing his acoustic renditions aren't really indicative of the studio version, any predictions on what the song will actually sound like?

    I'm expecting a mellower Words in the Water like one, but perhaps we're in for a surprise
     
  10. Ricky's Law

    Acclaimed Rock Innovators

    I kinda wish we didn't hear the full band snippet of Gnash before the acoustic version. It would've been fun to experience how jarring the difference is. Although, we did get to hear the inverse of electric to acoustic. In any event, I think you're right that this will be lighter or ballad-y.
     
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  12. SeeTheLights

    Trusted Prestigious

    On first listen, not as immediate as Gnash for me but I’m sure it will grow on me.

    reminds me of Promises from M/m
     
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  13. Phantoms

    Trusted

    I really like Albatross, not as heavy but really cool instrumental groove
     
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  14. MusicFan_88daadc6

    Newbie Supporter

    Gave me The Weight vibes when it first opened. Really digging this one.
     
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  15. drew_willy

    Newbie

    Reminded me of "Just Breathe" in some way. I love it upon first listen.
     
  16. Breath

    Regular

    100% agreed.
     
  17. renoinexile

    To Be Everywhere Is To Be Nowhere

    The bridge is so good!
     
  18. ezmo311

    Regular Supporter

    It definitely sounds like a bridge between M/M and TBEITBN
     
  19. SmashRipsaw

    Outcast Tape Infirmary

    That bass tho
     
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  20. ryan murphy

    Regular Supporter

    This song rules. Love the beggars/MM vibes. The bridge is great. I love thrice
     
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  21. AlwaysEvolving21

    Trusted Supporter

    FILTHY bass on Albatross! 2 for 2.
     
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  22. theagentcoma

    linktr.ee/jordansmith.author Prestigious

    oh yeah immediately like this one way more than Gnash
     
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  23. LightWithoutHeat

    I'm Forever Yours

    That verse baseline is almost identical to the one in Minerva. Great song.
     
  24. Kmil

    Trusted

    This fucking song is everything to me, damn so good. This in my opinion is way better than Gnash.
     
  25. Dog Fish

    Mutt

    That chorus is gonna be stuck in my head all day
     
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