For me, this is everything Guardians wants to be, but where Guardians feels like they are trying really hard, this was effortless. Also unlike almost all the Marvel movies, the fight scenes in this were visually pleasing
I reluctant to say that so soon, but this might be my second favorite after GOTG 2. And, Wonder Woman is my favorite DC film. And, Logan is my favorite Fox film. What a gosh darn good year for comic book films. Oh, yeah, and I guess Homecoming came out. Um... That was definitely a film Sony has done. Garfield for life.
would I still enjoy this even if I haven't seen a single Thor movie or anything marvel other than the first Avengers?
I watched this a second time on a whim today. Dang it do I love this film. The humor is getting a lot of justified attention, but the action is really wonderful, too, as are most of the character moments. The sequence in the third act where Led Zep kicks back in is so satisfying both as a peak in Thor's journey and as just a surface level fun sequence; Thor's thunder, Valkyrie's fireworks and swagger, and Hulk vs Fenris back-to-back-to-back is just wild. The opening sequence nails that vintage comic book Mjolnir-spin so well, and the gladiator match lasts exactly the right amount of time. And, on an emotional level, all the interactions between Loki and Thor were a delight. Besides a couple gags joke as Asgard is exploding, I don't think the humor undermines either the emotions or the action even a little (I'd sooner argue that the humor enhances them), as much as that seems to be the popular opinion. Also, during this watch, I found myself really appreciating the way the idea of "Ragnarok" tied into the creative vision for this film. I know some people are bummed that an epic mythological premise was used for what borders on sitcom, but honestly, I think it's perfect for what they were going for here. I liked Dark World more than most people, but Thor's solo films and use in Avengers has been a consistent weak point for the MCU. Chris Hemsworth himself was tired of his character. In the same way that Thor and company had to destroy Asgard in order to save Asgard, Hemsworth and company really had to blow this franchise up to save it. The final product is still a love letter to both these characters' past appearances and their source material (oh my goodness is the Jack Kirby here delicious, like, wow), but it also gleefully destroys and rebuilds in all the best ways.
Anyone else unable to stop calling this Thor FraggleRock? Grandmaster, Hela and Valkyrie were all great additions, acting wise and also varying degrees of fierceness , Grandmaster being pleased when Valkyrie touched him then winking at Thor was amazing I liked that Hela had a very clear motivation and was also campy in the best way possible Tumblr is gonna freak the fuck out about Strange and Loki being in a scene together the slaves, don't use the s word, prisoners who do unpaid work only issue, not enough Goldblum which is always the case, and also they had the army of Valkyries riding on pegasuses (pegasi? neither sounds right) and that only lasted only like 5 seconds, Tessa should have been on a pegasus the entire time and it was never explained also why did they release this immediately after Halloween when Hela and Valkyrie are perfect costumes
This was fantastic. I don't know if I'm ready to call it the best Marvel film of 2017 just yet, but I'm already pretty close.
I’ve seen GOTG2 and Spidey twice and this once so far. As of right now, GOTG2 is my favorite, by far.
If I'm being totally honest, GOTG2 might be my least favorite of the three. And I really liked GOTG2.
I enjoyed GOTG2 better upon a second viewing. I liked Spidey less on second viewing. Need to see Thor again, but it was pretty underwhelming to me.
Just the fact that Marvel allowed Taika to make one of his comedies, only with Thor and Hulk and Loki in it, elevates this one for me. So damn funny and maybe the most visually interesting of the MCU films (and, again, I don't say that lightly considering how imaginative and cool the visuals in the GOTG films are).
The sense of humor in this film is clearly its most defining aspect, but it baffles me that someone can think that's all this was. But, if conversations surrounding GOTG 2 have taught me anything, it's that people are easily distracted by jokes. Oh well. Also, Spider-Man: Homecoming is easily my least favorite comic book film released so far this year. Justice League could still end up being trash, but I kinda hope it's surprisingly fun so that I can continue calling Spidey my least favorite, lol. I'm at least hopeful that Venom and the animated Miles film will be for Sony what films this year have been for Marvel, DC, and Fox.
That’s certainly not all it was, but I think they sacrificed moments that should have had a bigger impact but were cheapened to do a gag. I fully understand I am the outlier here. It also doesn’t help that I am not really feeling emotions right now. That alone has s huge impact in viewing a movie meant to make you laugh the whole time. It’s a good movie, but nowhere near top MCU to me.
I'm not sure what you mean by not feeling emotions right now, but that sounds pretty personal and pretty rough, so whatever's going on there, sorry. As for the film itself, I can only think of a couple poorly timed gags towards the very end that derail the impact, which is granted the worst time for that to happen. I was invested enough in the story by then, though, that when they went from the gag back to the emotional impact, I personally found it easy to get into that mindset. I'm especially thinking of Thor and Heimdal watching Asgard explode, which shouldn't have had the Korg joke immediately beforehand, but it still landed for me just fine. Outside of that, I thought the humor added to the pathos (by underlining the humanity of these characters) more than detracted from it. I thought every interaction between Thor and Loki was especially touching, considering the complexity of their relationship and history. Valkyrie also had some good moments, though, which were elevated by Tessa Thompson's fantastic performance, which wonderfully blended swagger and sorrow. Ultimately, what does and doesn't work for someone is deeply personal and relative and all that. So, with how specific this film's vision was, I do get how it wouldn't stick with everyone. It just ended up being everything I wanted and needed so thoroughly right now that part of me is unreasonably shocked at more ambivalent responses, lol.
I know Thor lost his hammer and a fucking eye and Bruce is no longer in control of the Hulk and may not exist anymore, that's pretty serious