The Wonder Years Band • Page 186

This truly feels like a new album.

Between this, TSL, Motion City, Yellowcard, I dont even know what year we are in right now.

 

I loved the album despite the shitty mix but this just sounds right and I’m happy these songs got the treatment they deserved. I saw them live when they were touring this so it has a special place for me.

 

damn were those handclaps in the verse of Ernest Hemingway always there, literally never heard them before lmao

 

Same. Might be my favorite song on the album. Definitely my favorite of those that they don't regularly play live.

 

Everything was always there apparently but I've gone from just about being able to pick them out to hearing them loud and clear.

 

I’ve got nothing original to say, but I love this and it’s a shame this isn’t the version we’ve had for 10 years.

 

We need a The Starting Line / The Wonder Years tour so badly - it seems like such a perfect fit that I really can't believe it hasn't happened yet. Throw All Get Out on there and I'll travel anywhere for it.

 

I'd travel for that tour.

 

Have seen both TWY as support for TSL and more recently TSL as support for TWY and I think both shows are top-10 all time for me. Would go to as many dates as possible for a tour.

 

I feel like those two doing a co-headliner now isn't out of the question, since TSL are fully back.

 

Besides listening to Hum when it came out once or twice, I haven't really listened to TWY much since I saw the No Closer to Heaven tour.

Fuck, these new mixes sound incredible. In one degree of separation, I really dug the Letlive remix of their 2013 album from this summer.

Just random curiosity, what other albums would you want a remix of? There's been a lot of that lately, with the Replacements' mix of "Tim" being incredible too.

There's a lot of Guided by Voices stuff from the 90s I wish wasn't lo-fi even though I knew that was part of their charm lol

 

Sister Cities deserves this same treatment. Guess we'll see in 3 years!

 

I had a go at a re-order of the tracklisting without seeing this, and ended up almost the same.

I kept with 'Brothers &' as the opener (into Cardinals), with NCTH at the end after Cigarettes & Saints.
I then didn't cut anything like he did - so had You In January & Palm Reader before Cigs&Saints

 

I never liked either mix, but SC has always been worse to my ears. I think a remaster of that would totally change the fanbase's lukewarm opinion of it (I know many of us here like it). The muted start on Kyoto is a really big part of it, but the over-compression is just brutal on SC.

 

I think the way Kyoto sounds on there has always bothered me the most. Just starts the album off on such a low for a song that I think is fantastic otherwise.

 

I was never really bothered by the mix on SC until I listened to it a few weeks ago on really good headphones and noticed that my ears were really fatigued after.

 

Long way off but my "second set" predictions for the NCTH tour:

Low Tide
GODDAMNITALL
San Andreas
Cardinals II
There There
Screen Door
Came Out Swinging

 

I hear what people mean about Sister Cities, but it doesn’t sound nearly as bad as the original NCTH to me. I don’t have the language to really explain it but all I can say is that I always struggled to get through the original NCTH and never really spent much time with it but I listened to SC a lot. That said, I’d still like to hear what they could do with a SC remix/remaster.

 

Really if they just did a remixed/remastered Raining In Kyoto, Sister Cities would be fine

 

The hard thing about Sister Cities is the mix is kind of endemic to the style. It is a “dustier”, more harsh sounding mix that fits the songs. I don’t think this more modern pop punk sound would map as well on to the songs. Not to say it couldn’t be balanced better, but I think it would be a disservice to make the drums this pristine.

 

yeah hard to imagine Heaven's Gate sounding like this

 

Yeah it's an emotionally heavy record that has to have this kind of half-remembered haze about it to sell the vision. If it sounds harsher it genuinely serves the point. They haven't said shit about how they rushed the mix with it. Sure, Raining in Kyoto has that egregious balancing issue but I can't see them doing this for two album anniversaries on the bounce.

 

I still hope they do it, it sounds a lot worse than the original NCTH to me. like its egregious, you can barely hear the vocals in the climaxes of Lightning and Ocean because it's so muddy, I didn't know any of those lyrics before the Burst & Decay versions dropped

 

Raining in Kyoto is the big one that could use a fix. I guess it would be interesting if a rebalance almost mimicked something closer to Daisy. Not to mention the unmentionable.