The Whale (Darren Aronofsky, December 9, 2022) Movie • Page 4

yeah, just felt tonally very strange in the trailer

 

Dallas Buyers Club was the biggest piece of Matthew McConaughey's comeback and we were able to sweep that under the rug. He is in a Scorsese movie next year so we can just pretend this one didn't happen.

 

Oh baby this thing isn’t standing a chance when the ~discourse~ hits

 

Im excited to see some good fat acting, Jonah hills performace in Moneyball is my current go to.

 

Weird post.

 

Thats the selling point of the movie, watch Brendan Fraser be 600 pounds and i want to see it. I like watching how good actors incorporate their physicality into roles.

I used the Moneyball as an example as oppossed to Mac in Always Sunny who bascally just played up getting fat for laughs, Hill compared to other roles where is he very animated and his weight isnt as important, tones it down to contrast Brad and the pro ballers, slowing down and adding little gestures to suggest that he is unathletic without falling over and dropping baseballs

Also think Fraser has the chops to do it really well

 

Weird post [2].

 

Hill’s weight has nothing to do with his performance in money ball. I really have no idea what you’re trying to say.

 

you think it is a coincidence hes the only overweight person cast in that movie?

 

he clearly put on weight for the role

 

Chris Pratt on getting his role

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moneyball_(film)#Cast

"Pratt described how he initially was told in his first audition for the role of Hatteberg that he was "too fat". He took three months to work out and shed 30 pounds, which led to him winning the role."

 

what is your point

 

I get it I also watch Moneyball and think “it’s good because he’s fat now”

 

As a fat guy, I think a lot of the discourse around this movie is over the top and annoying.

that said, these last few posts are fucking weird man haha. Not upsetting by any means. Just weird

 

Not sure anymore, went a bit off the rails

keen to see The Whale though

 

I saw this a few months ago, Fraser and Hong Chau are exceptional, and their performances elevate the film above the really weak script and direction.

Aronofsky clearly has very little faith in his audience, full of moments where metaphors are explicitly explained, and characters just explaining directly how they’re feeling, rather than being inferred. Some of the dialogue is atrocious, and it’s hard to imagine how some of the lines exist in their current state. It’s very cloying and emotionally manipulative, with musical cues laid on thick, and very clearly working hard to pull on our heartstrings.

Fraser and Chau though make it worth seeing, an exercise in how far performance can carry a film, in spite of the direction and writing.

 

I haven't seen it yet, but based in his career I don't know if it is so much that he doesn't have faith in his audience but rather he is not an intelligent person so he can't be subtle about his ideas. I generally don't personally insult directors I dislike but Darren Aronofsky always comes off as a stupid person, and the worst kind, one that thinks he is a genius.

 

I was hoping some of that would be mitigated by him not writing ala the wrestler, because he can get great performances.

(I havent seen Mother!)

 

Mother! might literally be the worst film I’ve ever seen. Or at least the least-enjoyable.

 

Aronofsky's particular style only really works in The Wrestler because the subculture in the film is so violent and brutal anyway.

 

Mother! is gud

 

Requiem and Black Swan are top tier.

 

They are unwatchable.

 

Just curious on your opinion why?

 

Requiem for a Dream is the purest example of Aronofsky wanting to rub your face in it. It is like an anti-drug ad they used to show in school. It never really gives you time to breathe, and perhaps most surprisingly for a film of that era, it doesn't really differentiate between casual drug use and hardcore abuse. The pipeline goes straight from touching marijuana to overdosing from a speedball in an abandoned motel. That is why we never believed those D.A.R.E. speakers.

Black Swan rips off of the Dardenne brothers too much, and the lesbianism is pure male fantasy. The story of obsession driving someone to their downfall was much better done in The Wrestler, and surprisingly The Wrestler left if ambiguous whether Randy died or not because Aronofsky probably wanted to show him writhing around in pain and screaming.