I wished this episode made me care more about this show at the end, but it just didn't. The scene with the dinner table at the end made me think I was watching the end to the friggin' Fast and Furious.
I feel this way too. Eventually (and i think people are already starting to feel this way) the show will drag on but continue to go on just because it's still a money pit. At this point, or eventually, it'll get to the point of quantity over quality. I've been saying for years that I'm ready for this show to come to an end while it's still pretty good (I'm in the camp that still enjoys this very much) or at least have an end in sight. But if it continues to go on and on and on and they keep putting in all these filler episodes, then a LOT of people will start to lose interest. Unfortunately, I don't see the end coming anytime soon for several reasons. A) the source material is still ongoing and B) AMC would be out of their minds to end this anytime soon because of the ratings and money it makes.
I agree with all of that. I can't argue that it shouldn't be going on considering it's basically as popular as it ever was. haha. I just wish it was pointing in the direction that there was some ending they are shooting for, you know? Like, the end doesn't have to be close, but I have no idea what the point of the show is or really the lesson being taught. After this many seasons, really the only theme in the show is that once one group of bad people is taken care of, another takes its place, with Rick's group eventually becoming just as bad so.... What kind of resolution are we supposed to get at the end? Everyone dies and it's over? All of the zombies eventually die and peace gets restored?
Since it's based on the comic, it's all dependent on the comic; as long as the comic keeps going, the show will keep following it, so we'll only get a resolution if the comic gets it
If I had to find a show so thoroughly reflective of the way in which, I think, Trumpists see the world, it would be this one. The sole animating force, at this point, is sadism and reiteration that the world is terrible, aside from your "family". There's no nuance, no catharsis, only more and more bodies piling up to teach a lesson we learned two episodes into the show. Blah. Also, someone should tell the actor that is playing Carl to get a goddamn hair cut. He looks ridiculous.
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The dinner scene, the cringiest cringe also I bet they lose more viewers than that because people tuned in just for the reveal
Hahahaha! It's a tv show about a zombie apocalypse - where civilization is dunzo, and millions upon millions of dead people come back to life & are on a completely tireless, never-ending hunt for living flesh. Just out of interest, where would catharsis come from in a situation like that, do you think?
As jaded as I was towards the deaths, the dinner scene actually gave me some feels. I liked it *shrugs*
I liked it too; it was the only time I really felt emotional over their deaths ( well apart from when Glenn told Maggie he'd find her, that hurt )
Probably right. If you go on their Facebook page you'll see people posting that they're not watching anymore because "Glenn's death was too graphic", so that might make it lower if the people stick to their word.
I think my least favorite part of the premiere, which was a direct result of the previous season's mishap, was that Abe and Glenn weren't really a part of the episode up until the point that they got killed. Even though I've known the characters for years, it was still a weird send off for me not seeing them have any interaction with any other characters beforehand. Maybe if you binged the episodes it wouldn't feel as weird, but... I don't know. I think it would have been better had they had more of a build up instead of a cliffhanger ending followed by a layoff.
Actual human emotions and interactions, rather than a cast of characters whose only use is to one day die, because we need to know how terrible human nature is when civilization is gone. An actual focus on rebuilding would be far more interesting to me. The idea of a nascent civilization, with a natural predator, has a broader range of ideas. However, that would require them not to teach us yet another lesson, which we've learned from the show before: no place is safe and as soon as you call a place home, it will be destroyed.
I think that's more of the point. To show how Negan is completely ruthless. He will kill anyone at any time. For example, Daryl punched him, you would think that was his final good bye, but, instead, he took out his vengeance on someone at random.
It reminded me of the end of every "Fast & The Furious" movie, which was nice because those are pretty fun.
I didn't mind the dinner scene. If it was just thrown in there randomly i'd of probably laughed at it. But Negan was taunting Rick with it right after Rick just watched two of his friends get beat to death. "What'd you think? You all would just be sitting around a dinner table like a happy family?" And then Rick envisioned it.
Yeah, I agree it was part of that character's presence. He doesn't give a shit about who any of those people are (I believe in the comics he talks about not really having any feelings about anything). It was more just like...ok those guys are gone after I haven't really seen them for months. Moving on. It speaks to Negan's character, but it also wasn't quite the emotional blow it could have been with a really big build up, I guess.