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The Used – “The Lighthouse” feat. Mark Hoppus

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  2. Colby Searcy

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    Best song from the album so far
     
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  3. SuNDaYSTaR

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    Very good but very short, too.
     
  4. ben.

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    The collab nobody saw coming
     
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  5. SuNDaYSTaR

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  6. Jusscali

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    I like it
     
  7. parkerxcore

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    ohhHHhh fuck city I love this.
     
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  8. FrankieThe4th

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    bad luck to kill a seabird
     
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  9. Ska Senanake

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    Slap bass in a used song??? I dig it! Is mark slapping the bass? I would love that.

    Also, the music video if they do one should be based on the movie the lighthouse. That would be dope.
     
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  10. silentc

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    According to Bert they made more than 1 song with Mark during the recording of the album and all the unreleased music they made during the recording of this album will be released soon at some point
     
  11. VivaLaPopPunk

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    Man, this song is good, but awful at the same time. I really hate how 98% of today's music has a majority of computer generated sound. If this song came out 10-15 years ago, this would have been a banger. The vocals sound great. The melody is great, the harmonies between Bert and Mark are great.. but dammit, the computer generated sound just kills it for me as well as the majority of today's music. I wish people would just play their damn instruments and record them the way they were meant to be recorded. Technology is destroying today's music and it's a sad, sad day for the fact that it's becoming the norm of how music has sounded/sounds in 2015-2020.
     
  12. Computer generated music as you call it has been around for many more decades and isn't going anywhere. I'm all for differing opinions but this ain't it. Just try to get over it by listening to various genres of music or else you'll keep missing out by being stuck in a bubble.
     
  13. Technology is destroying today's music is such a wild take. In the contrary, it has made it much more accessible to be created and shared. I'm at a loss for words, really.

    If you had any idea how many of your favorite pop punk albums were created by using digital tech... "technology", damn you would be FURIOUS I tell you.
     
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  14. Jusscali

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    They could record an entire album off a mfing washboard if the songs were legit lol it’s not tech, it’s the songs
     
  15. VivaLaPopPunk

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    Pop-punk music from 1999-2009 sounds vastly different than today's pop-punk. It used to have a nice raw sound that was mainly instrumental with a sprinkle of computer generated music. Nowadays it's mainly computer generated with a sprinkle of real instrumentation. I too am all for differentiation of opinions as well, but this ain't it either. Music has changed, but when you take away the instruments and substitute them for a computer, it's not a change for the better. I listen to a lot of music, but very little of it today sounds as pure as it did 10-15 years ago.
     
  16. Crisp X Apr 25, 2020
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    I don't listen to pop punk anymore so my point was meant to be taken in a broader context. The problems I have with this tired "old is better" rhetoric:
    • It just shows off many misconceptions about today's music
    • You conveniently ignore the benefits brought by the evolution of technology
    • Recording softwares, plugins, and amp sims have gotten so much better to the point you wouldn't even tell if you were listening to something done through physical gear or not
    • I'm sure many bands still somewhat use the same recording techniques, if the costs allow them, and end up putting out sonically similar records. You just have to look for them.
    • If by "vastly different", you also mean songwriting wise... from the few sprinkles of newer bands I hear, it's really not the case. Sure, trends come and go and some acts are obviously inspired by current popular music but overall, no really, it's still the same old genre with the same old tropes / chord progressions / melodies etc.
    • Analog =/= pure or better, as an aspiring musician myself I just can't stand that argument
    • Just adding this as the "real instrumentation" expression always makes me want to scratch my eyes. There's nothing wrong with making music without being proficient in any physical instruments. Nothing wrong with samples or any kind of electronic touches in rock music. I know you won't disagree with the latter part as you seem to be into other genres, but just... the notion that "real instrumentation" is better needs to disappear. It's just wrong on every level.

    I can't help it, but to me you just come off as out of touch for dismissive and non logical reasons. Those arguments are the kind of stuff I was already sick of reading on ap.net, but even more on this place.
     
  17. Jusscali

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    Frenchie went IN!
     
  18. I imagined Matty saying this
     
  19. VivaLaPopPunk

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    I'm not ignoring the benefits of the advancement and evolution of technology. There are many benefits, but there are also downfalls from technology. I work in education, technology has helped me in my job tremendously, but that doesn't mean I've abandoned things from a time technology wasn't where it is today. Not everything can/should be done on a computer.

    Listen to Green Day's 'Warning' album and then whatever their new one is called that came out this year. Billie Joe doesn't even sound like Billie Joe. I'm not sure how anyone can argue that no longer sounding like yourself is a good thing. Listen to Fall Out Boy's 'Take This To Your Grave' and then their most recent album. Listen to The Used's 'The Used' album and compare it to this track. I can go on and on. But these bands don't sound like themselves in many ways.

    Pop music has always had samples and and a lot of electronic sounds to it, most of the time that has been the norm, too. Heck, 80s pop music was mostly electronic and it carried over. Rock music; however, was always heavy 'real instrumentation' with some sprinkles of samples and electronic generated music, but nowadays, it's practically the opposite. You can easily tell most of the time what's raw instrumentation and what's computer generated, especially when it comes to drums. Drums used to have this big sound, now most of the time it's just empty thuds.

    Hip Hop music has always incorporated samples and electronics, but if you listen to older rap like Biz Markie's 'Just a Friend' to Eminem's early material, as well as Jay Z's.. Rap music had melodic elements to them and even some instrumentals to them, but now if you listen to pretty much anything off of iTunes top 100 hip-hop songs, any of those elements are gone.

    Country has also fallen victim to this trend. Country sounds like pop music now. Gone are the days of songs like Clint Black's 'Good Run of Bad Luck' and even Kenny Chesney's 'Keg in the Closet.' Those songs sound exponentially better than anything Luke Bryan and others are putting out in this day and age.

    I can go on and on, but the majority of today's music sounds generic due to all this technology. Technology is great when it's used sparingly, but it has completely taken over the music world and in my opinion not for the better. But to each their own..

    What's next? Are Jazz artists going to bring in electronic drum sets and pads to sample in some sirens and trashcan sounds?.. Most likely not, thankfully.
     
  20. Crisp X Apr 26, 2020
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    The bizarre complaints you have... I've been hearing them for more than a decade, those older than me for probably much longer.

    My main point is you're making up a false problem (today's music sounds generic), built on a misconception (because of technology), and pointing your finger at it over and over again, that's all I've been saying since the beginning. The rest reads like attempts at anecdotal evidence (X song from the past sounds better than Y from the present... because uh... trap beats!) -I mean we're seriously arguing over it in a The Used thread- to fit a narrative.

    I guess I wouldn't go off this hard if you just realized technology isn't the problem, but what specific artists chose to do with it. To extrapolate on the basis of your dislike of their songwriting and production choices seems... a lot. Correlation does not imply causation (okay I seriously lifted that from many recent articles about debunking current conspiracy theories, but that point applies here too).

    You brought up that garbage Green Day album, when actually those vocal effects are reminiscent of old school garage rock... see the irony in your statement?

    The passage about Hip-hop is just completely off. If you seriously think those elements are gone, you're just not paying attention to the genre at all.

    Rootsy (for a lack of a better word) country music is still being written and released uh? What trend are you talking about in this case then? You're acting like Country pop, as a genre, is new when country oldheads were already throwing meltdowns when Dixie Chicks and Shania Twain became popular... in the 90's.

    As for jazz, why not? What is wrong with that? At least it would freshen things up. That part just sounds dismissive for no reason.

    Again, it's not like we've come this far sonically and people suddenly stopped making the kind of music you're craving and weirdly putting on a pedestal.
     
  21. VivaLaPopPunk

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    Lol, I wouldn't say this is an argument. I've thought of this to be a debate, but if you consider it an argument, then to each their own.
     
  22. I tried making sense of this post but the quarantine is taking a toll on my mental capacities.

    I just hope you find some bands and artists that can challenge your current beliefs. There's so much good music out there right now.
     
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  23. parkerxcore

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    This thread took a bizarre turn so ima bring it back and say this song still fucks.
     
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  24. Colby Searcy

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    Whole album does!
     
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  25. Jusscali

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    Those 3-4 songs certainly do lol