he isn't credited, and that's kinda the point. He isn't a featured guest who gets a verse or anything, he's used kinda as background noise during the buildup. I find it to be a really fascinating part of the album that works really well and helps make the track as good as it is
oh ok so he wasn't even in the liner notes, i would of remembered that! i always read em back to back
Max being on that song was very very much a known thing. They used Tim because of that album. Yeah, I hate that album though.
its their weakest of the three but i still enjoy it for what it is! and i didn't know, i was and forever have been a way bigger TSL fan than a SA fan.
Umm I think it probably was in the credits but I don't have my CD anymore to check haha. Just not like, credited as "ft. Max Bemis" anywhere, ya know?
i really like that album but i remember always thinking it was before trainwreck because there's no way you go from writing a masterpiece to the self-titled.
I feel like after two albums that were dark & heavy. They wanted to lighten stuff up musically. But yeah, Trainwreck is their magnum opus
I guess I wouldn’t say dislike, but more so never really gave Trainwreck a chance. I know it’s everyone’s favorite album by them. Self-titled was my introduction to the band so after loving that album then going back through their discography, Trainwreck didn’t immediately pull my 13 year old self in like BNO did, so I think I just wrote it off and never really tried to listen since. There's a lot of bands/albums from that time that I deemed as "bad" if I didn't like it right away but have come to love as I've gotten older.
I feel this on every level. I saw BNO on that FOB, TSL, MCS, P!ATD tour and fell in love with Make Yourself Sick, but I was too young to appreciate/understand Trainwreck.