The Sopranos (HBO) TV Show • Page 100

Also Tony himself admits to Melfie he really doesn't give a shit what Vito does but for the sake of "appearances" for his business it's a problem.

Phil throws such a big stink over the whole thing because of his own closeted feelings stemming from the things he probably did in the can

 

the first coma dream episode especially is like, one of the very best Sopranos episodes lol. actually incredible and some of Gandolfini's best work in the role

I'd agree the Vito storyline is whatever but it lasts like 2 episodes and is still essential for setting up Phil's transformation into a house and subsequent demise

 

Him getting mad that the other guy is watching the male body builders is gold.

 

Kevin Finnerty heads rise up

 

Hated the coma and dream episodes haha

 

they're absolutely essential imo. the Hollywood/music biz episodes on the other hand are mostly whiffs

 

the finnerty episodes i did not like on my first watch when they were airing live but i appreciated them far more years later.

 

Those episodes, Fran Felstein, and Columbus Day are usually considered the low tier.

 

I have no problem with the Columbus Day episode even though people criticize it all the time. "D-Girl" doesn't do much for me, but even the worst episodes of this show are full of great stuff.

I've had trouble with the darkness of season 5, but it's still essential. not calling it bad at all. it's just a very bleak season

 

Season Five really feels like a reflection of the criticism of Season Four at the time that there wasn't enough violence or action.

 

As a Twin Peaks fan I love the way this show does dreams

 

feel like they end up being very different approaches but Chase was definitely inspired by TP

 

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He is risen.

 

Too slow and artsy fartsy for my liking. I am more into the real world character interactions of the show. So that just leaves the scenes of everyone crying over Tony for way too many episodes lolol

 

big fan of artsy-fartsy and also a fan of the mob dynamics and interpersonal drama. I think the show hits all the registers in a great way

 

It's the greatest tv show of all time partially because it appeals to all parts of my brain

 

It is the rare piece of art that works for your dumb uncle and the arthouse crowd.

 

I'm not an uncle yet, but boy, am I dumb

 

Yeah they’re nonsense

 

lol come onnn. it's one thing to say the dream logic doesn't work for you but nonsense?? that kind of storytelling pervades a ton of non-Western art. it's so refreshing that it appears in this extremely American show. and not even in an abstracted way--it's very easy to glean psychological readings from them. this show is about getting in a character's head and those scenes literally give us that.

 

Your pro-Xenoblade Chronicles X opinions almost let this slide.

 

It is maybe the best use of dreams in American film and television. It captures how they can both seem all-important while also being nonsensical. We see what we want to see, both in the actual dream being created by our brain but also in how we choose to read them.

 

I know, I read a lot of non-Western literature that that kind of storytelling, but those novels are never about mobsters from New Jersey haha