yeah i think people were specifically talking about a positive conclusion of a series, there are plenty good season finales, takes a lot more to land an ending without people complaining
John Turturro's performance in this show really shined to me. I wonder what this show with Gandolfini's performance would've looked like. I feel like it would be completely different.
I've read there are scenes shot that show it's less of a visible impediment and more of a physical one, like he had a limp or something. Obviously it was only the pilot but from what I've read (who knows how accurate it is), the character was just as weary as Torturro's, but a bit less showy and more resigned to his fate.
Dunno why I'm just popping in here now. The drawn out exit from prison was so masterfully done. It stressed me the fuck out, especially since my theory was always that he'd be on the verge of being innocent and get killed in prison. That and a few scenes in the pilot, such as his pat down, were some of the best shot things I've seen in a long time. Overall I give it a B+. The superfluous kiss knocked it down a grade on its own. Pilot alone gets a A++ tho. Best pilot I've seen since I guess The Affair. Or Maybe ever?
What Is the Meaning of ‘The Night Of’ Cat? – The Ringer Lol what? Not once ever did I think that the cat was going to help solve the murder. It was clearly a symbol for Naz/the helpless. How does the writer not get that?
I haven't read much from The Ringer, but everything I have felt very undercooked. Is it just not good?
Felt satisfied with the conclusion. We don't get a definitive answer, but do we ever for scenarios like this? Really hoping HBO can say no to a second season.
I havnt read much either, but unfortunately, I've had the same impression. I was a huge fan of Grantland, so it kinda buns me out
Since they've said it would be anthology style if they do go for a second season I'd be fine with it. These kind of shows are generally entertaining enough to be worth watching, and the high production value on this season gives me hope that with another crack at they could make something better. Overall I'm realizing it's possible to enjoy a show and know that it wasn't very good. I was hooked for the whole 9 hours here even if a good amount of stuff rang very false to me. As far as HBO mysteries that didn't fully stick the landing I preferred True Detective season 1 by a good bit. In the end their flaws were pretty similar and I'll take the amount of fun that season was any day.
Glad I wasn't the only one who stressed whenever they showed Naz at Rikers. After Freddy gave him that creepy speech about bringing him under his wing and being proud of him, I did not think he would let him leave. So I'm assuming that was Freddy who handed over the footage of Naz and Chandra making out? I guess he just knew that it might be grounds for a mistrial? But they made it seem like it was Detective Box.
I thought it was definitely Freddy, remember the scene where he goes up to the guard and gets a security footage disc?
I hate to invoke it, as the nature of the shows are different, but The Wire was very good at demonstrating the nihilism of institutional power. Given that one of the writers was on the show, I expected a bit more of that. Not that I'm comparing the two shows in terms of wanting one to be like the other, rather, I think one is a demonstration of how to balance characters and a representation of culture at a particular time in a fuller way than the other.
Haven't had a chance to read through the thread since Sunday, but I enjoyed the finale and the series as a whole, but everything between Naz and Chandra was ridiculous. And I still can't get over the Sinbad tat.
I know it sounds silly to base off of one show but HBO doesn't have my faith in them handling an anthology series like a network like FX might based on the failure of true detective Wasn't crazy about this but I still liked it enough to not want a true detective season 2 out of this
I'm not going to try and argue Price and Pizzolatto in terms of who the better writer is because it's obviously Price, but there were definitely elements of this where the writing was not great to say the least
I wasn't comparing the writers. I was just remarking on why I think the second season of True Detective failed because of writing/characterization flaws as opposed to network intervention.
Oh I know you weren't haha. Sorry. I just could see a second season failing based on the writing of this season