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The New Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums List • Page 10

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by Craig Manning, Sep 22, 2020.

  1. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    my eyes are bleeding wow congrats
     
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  2. cshadows2887

    Hailey, It Happens @haileyithappens Supporter

    I also wonder just how many votes people got. Like 100% Rob Sheffield got the damn Harry Styles record on the list. But, like, did he say it was one of the TEN best records ever?
     
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  3. cshadows2887

    Hailey, It Happens @haileyithappens Supporter

    Also this list sorta makes me want to do the first Chorus installment of that User-Picked 100 Albums You Have to Hear thing we did thrice on AP.
     
  4. radiodead

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    I like Rob. But I do not understand the Harry Styles infatuation.
     
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  5. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    It would be pretty fascinating to see what people would pick out now that most people’s tastes have broadened considerably.

    If you’ve read his books, it’s clear that Rob is just very fascinated with superstardom and fandom, sometimes as much as he is with the music itself. I think it informs a lot of what he ranks or rates highly, and it definitely benefits Harry. Still don’t know how that album would have gotten to the final list, though.
     
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  6. cshadows2887

    Hailey, It Happens @haileyithappens Supporter

    I would honestly hope that, like before, it was a heterogenous mix of predictable and weird. That mixture drove everyone nuts back then ("Why would you include The Starting Line?!?!") but it was honestly my goal from the very beginning.

    One of my favorite writers, period. In particular because of how much he's a fan as well as a critic. But yeah that album, while very good, is not an all-time classic.
     
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  7. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    Yeah, they were very cool lists. Enough familiar stuff to scroll through and say “I like a bunch of these!” but also enough under-the-radar stuff to fuel discovery. Definitely found a few new favorites through that. Do you still have those lists somewhere?

    Anyway, I’d be game to participate if you want to spearhead it!
     
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  8. soggytime

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    I'm all for our own GOAT lists thread/project - would be cool to see where everyone stands
     
  9. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    im down if i am welcome
     
  10. stars143

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    Gorillaz - Demon Days should be on here

    Surprised to see three Pavement albums included.
     
  11. cshadows2887

    Hailey, It Happens @haileyithappens Supporter

    Yeah I have all three saved. I should ask Jason if he wants to resurrect them.
     
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  12. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    I also wonder if anyone has the list we did in like 2015 where the general forum voted on their all-time favorite albums and we made a cumulative top 50 (I think?) that then got posted on the website, blurbs and all. Only issue with that one is that Brand New took the number 1 slot.
     
  13. cshadows2887

    Hailey, It Happens @haileyithappens Supporter

    Oh I vaaaaaguely remember it.
     
  14. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    I think you did an Everything in Transit blurb? And I did one for Futures?
     
  15. cshadows2887

    Hailey, It Happens @haileyithappens Supporter

    Oh yeah! I hope that list exists. I now am remembering being very happy with that write-up.
     
  16. Contender

    Goodness is Nowhere Supporter

     
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  17. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    Lol did someone steal my joke and change the Hotelier album????
     
  18. cshadows2887

    Hailey, It Happens @haileyithappens Supporter

    Upon really going through, the cuts that bum me out the most:

    Blood, Sweat and Tears - Child Is Father to the Man
    Cheap Trick - At Budokan
    Ray Charles - The Genius of Ray Charles
    Miles Davis - Sketches of Spain
    Bob Dylan - Desire
    Stan Getz and Joao Gilbert - Getz/Jilberto
    Jethro Tull - Aqualung
    Billy Joel - 52nd Street
    Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign
    Meat Loaf - Bat Out of Hell
    The Meters - Rejuvenation
    Willie Nelson - Stardust
    Randy Newman - Good Old Boys
    The O'Jays - Back Stabbers
    Graham Parker and The Rumour - Squeezing Out Sparks
    The Pogues - Rum Sodomy and the Lash
    Quicksilver Messenger Service - Happy Trails
    Simon and Garfunkel - Bookends
    Frank Sinatra - Songs for Swingin' Lovers
    Soundgarden - Superunknown
    Richard and Linda Thompson - Shoot Out the Lights
    Various Artists - The Anthology of American Folk Music
    Tom Waits -The Heart of Saturday Night
    Muddy Waters - Folk Singer
    Barry White - Can't Get Enough

    Coolest inclusions:

    Neil Young - On the Beach
    Bill Withers - Still Bill
    Luther Vandross - Never Too Much
    Taylor Swift - Red
    Rufus - Ask Rufus
    Harry Nilsson - Nilsson Schmilsson
    Kacey Musgraves - Golden Hour
    Charles Mingus - Miingus Ah Um
    John Mayer - Continuum
    The Isley Brothers - 3 + 3
    Billie Holiday - Lady in Satin
    Isaac Hayes - Hot Buttered Soul
    Daft Punk - Random Access Memories
    Sheryl Crow - Sheryl Crow
    Creedence Clearwater Revival - Cosmo's Factory
    Leonard Cohen - Songs of Leonard Cohen
    Chic - Risque
    2pac - All Eyez on Me
     
  19. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    Some interesting insights into the list-making process from Stephen Thomas Erlewine of All Music Guide here.

    Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums: Say Goodnight to the Rock & Roll Era

    He confirmed a few of the assumptions/suspicions I had about the list, including:

    -Ballots were 50 albums
    -He and many other voters left off a lot of the "usual suspects" (Beatles, Stones, Dylan, etc.) figuring they'd get plenty of support elsewhere.
    -He kept a "one album per artist" rule; would not be surprised if many other folks with ballots did the same.
    -He saw his ballot as a form of "advocacy" -- a way to boost albums that might not get as much attention on other ballots --rather than as his opinion on which albums were most "important" or "influential."

    Anyway, an interesting read that sheds some light on how this list came to be and why it looks like it does.
     
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  20. jdr2187

    jdr2187

    This seems like a dumb way to compile a list that claims to be the 500 greatest albums of all time.
     
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  21. cshadows2887

    Hailey, It Happens @haileyithappens Supporter

    Will absolutely be going through his ballot and listening to things I haven’t heard. Love STE
     
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  22. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    His thought process makes sense, but I definitely don't disagree with you. It's very clear that this list exists at least partially as a reaction to the last one, hence the "I don't need to vote for this; someone else will."

    Same. I hope other folks who voted for this (the critics at least) also publish their ballots. I'd love to compile those together and work through them for listening.
     
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  23. cshadows2887

    Hailey, It Happens @haileyithappens Supporter

    I've heard 33 out of his 50 (and 12 of his 18 shortlisted). Honestly expected to do worse.

    I wonder if Hyden voted. I'd love to see his.
     
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  24. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

  25. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    I really wish theyd release the individual ones