The Mandalorian (Disney+) TV Show • Page 126

I feel like people forget Luke’s big hero moment was throwing his lightsaber away and refusing to fight. That’s the moment when he becomes a Jedi, not by beating Vader in a fight.

 

People like Star Wars because of the laser swords and space magic. That’s not exactly an alt right thing. Just gotta accept it

 

I wouldn’t call it Luke refusing to fight. It was Luke refusing to kill that made him a Jedi. It wasn’t until Palpatine told him to strike down Vader that made Luke tossed his lightsaber away. Luke does a fair amount of fighting after ROTJ and he’s still a Jedi then.

 

Like some here, I had the moment of "OH SHIT! IT'S LUKE!"..."Oh, shit. It's Luke." because it felt like it took a series which was so good at filling out the elements of Star Wars beyond the version of this galaxy we've seen, and tied it directly to what was, but I've softened on my bother with that.

I am kind of wondering if The Mandalorian Season 3 just is The Book of Boba Fett and Djn's story is done, because I'm not sure what we get that doesn't just lead to an audience going "BUT WHERE GROGU?"

Random bit I enjoyed: The all-lady-wreck-shit fest which was Dune, Krennic, Bo-Katan and Reeves tearing up Gideon's ship. Nice touch. As was Reeves (aka Sasha Banks) hitting a jet-pack assisted tornado DDT on Boba Fett.

 

Dins story isn't done. We're going back to mandalore.

 

There used to be, but it’s all legends now. Shadows of the Empire took place between Empire and Jedi.

 

Love this EP. Was incredible to see Luke and R2D2. It makes the most sense as I’m sure he was searching for force sensitive students during this period.

My only complaint was how stiff Luke felt at times. Obviously the major focus point was how Din felt.

 

I never really saw it that way. He only takes the saber after Palpatine goads him into it, knowing that by choosing to fight he’s going down the wrong path, and I always saw the moment of him looking at his mechanical hand and looking back at Vader being the moment he realizes if he keeps fighting, he will become Vader. After ROTJ, he does have some fights, but always gives his opponents a chance to walk away (“The choice to be better” from Battlefront 2 and allowing the Knights of Ren to leave in the Kylo comic prior to their fight). It’s only with Ben as shown in Last Jedi, does he not give that choice and takes up his saber to fight immediately, and that is the moment of his greatest failure. This is reinforced later in Last Jedi when he wins by not actually fighting and only being an illusion. This idea also connects to the prequels where the Jedi Order had flaws (too rigid and aloof, not helping everyone they could have been helping) but it only falls because they make the choice to fight in the Clone Wars.

 

My wife commented on the all woman free wrecking things. I also loved the jetpack ambush on the bridge. Such a cool scene.

 

Can we talk about Sasha Banks being WWE champ AND getting into a fist fight with Boba Fett? Maybe the only person having a GREAT 2020.

 

Yea I don’t understand why so many people are assuming his story is finished when it seems apparent (to me at least) that it’s just now ramping up.

 

When Palpatine talks to Luke the fight is over. It’s done. Luke has won and Vader is saber and handless. There is no more fighting. The only option Luke has is to kill or spare Vader. A direct reflection of when Anakin had defeated Dooku in battle but allows Palpatine to push him into finishing him, whereas Luke decides not to kill Vader.

I also never it saw it as this. For one Luke had no way of making it off the island since he destroyed his x-wing so Luke had no choice but to appear as an illusion. It’s not like he could choose to physically fight Kylo or stay on the island. He only had one option and it was to appear as an illusion. I also don’t think it was solely just Luke picking up his lightsaber against Ben. It was Luke not giving Ben a chance and instead going straight for the kill. Which is directly against what Luke fought for when it came to trying to help his father and then hid in fear (which he stated was wrong of him to do in TROS), which is what I took as his greatest failure.[/QUOTE]

I’m not really sure what you’re trying to say with them falling due to making the choice to fight in the clone wars. Are you saying the Jedi choosing to fight was what made the Jedi fall? Because I don’t see how that makes sense. I do like to hear your takes on all of this, though.

 

quit calling him Din

 

Bunch of narcs

 

Your point on the parallels between Luke/Vader and Anakin/Dooku are really interesting, and now have me thinking of how Anakin/Mace relates to this idea.

I totally agree with your point of Luke not giving Ben a choice and the picking up of the saber is the visualization of that. I do think Luke could have gotten off Ach-To if he wanted to based on Rey using his X-Wing in RoS.

As far as the Jedi Order, I think the Jedi had a lot of internal flaws that led them astray long before Phantom Menace, many of which Qui-Gon pushes back against, but the catalyst for their fall is when they decided to become warriors and generals in the Clone Wars. They made the choice to fight and to kill which opened them up to their ultimate destruction. They may have been able to survive for another hundred years, even with their faults, but the war and their choice to be in it is straw that broke the banthas back so to speak.

It’s things like this that make love Star Wars so much. This world is so universal yet tip of the iceberg that everyone can see the same thing, but take very different ideas away and still all be right (minus those who try and use it as political weapon cause that just goes against everything in the Saga).

 

They’re setting Din up to become the leader of the Mandalorian people. Like that seems to be clearly where the endgame of this show is going.

 

So why didn't Din mention anything about these imperial remnants taking Grogu's blood, or the things in the tubes, or any of the information that may have been relevant to Luke or others?

 

Because they had more important shit to deal with at the time

 

The entire "people I don't like like this thing so I don't like it" thing is, to me, an overreaction. This Luke and the Luke of Battlefront who imparted a new path upon Del Meeko with his kind words and actions and the Luke of TLJ can all exist in the same universe.

Rey says it in TFA, "Luke Skywalker? I thought he was a myth." In order for Luke to be considered a myth at this point 35 years later then it stands to reason he did some pretty crazy shit and then just dipped out much like he did here. He is embodying the Jedi that Yoda taught him to be, "A Jedi must have the most serious mind."

Nothing here doesn't track with Luke's mythic nature as presented in the sequels or his other canonical appearances around this time in Battlefront. He's out in the Universe saving people as shown in The Legends of Luke Skywalker book. Coming in, saving the day, and getting out without handing out his business card.

I loved this. It gave me something that made my heart pound and made me tear up. If you weren't excited by that ending then I'm not sure what to tell you because my adrenaline was pumping and it was something I didn't necessarily expect at all even though I thought it made the most sense that, if a Jedi showed up, it would be Luke.

For the others people have said:

Ezra: He is still clearly missing as evidenced by the Ahsoka show and his return would remove the entire impetus for the Ahsoka show.

Ahsoka: She's clearly on a mission and made it clear she wasn't going to train Grogu.

Cal: There is going to be a JFO2. Lucas film isn't going to tie the hands of the game developers by giving him a future before they can finish their story.

Random legends Jedi: roll eyes

I loved the episode and I'm not going to let the fact that some dudebros on the internet may have enjoyed it as well keep me from immersing myself in sweet, sweet Star Wars action with one of my favorite characters ever.

 

Mando ain’t a narc

 

Oh, thank goodness.

 

A gigantic “no shit” haha

 

I continue to be baffled that people didn’t immediately understand that The Book of Boba Fett is its own separate show